NFL admits the TMac catch should not have been overturned

[Shocker]

Hey we just want to let you know that we fugged up and we won’t be doing anything about it 

[Move the Panthers to Raleigh]

2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

I mean, we have been fuging terrible for 8 years. Odd time to bolt now.

It's not that. It's the use of the of the fake "QB slide". I don't want to watch a league where flopping to draw fouls or using safety protocols to gain an edge is acceptable. 

[kungfoodude]

5 minutes ago, Move the Panthers to Raleigh said:

It's not that. It's the use of the of the fake "QB slide". I don't want to watch a league where flopping to draw fouls or using safety protocols to gain an edge is acceptable. 

That has happened for years in the NFL. 

[Move the Panthers to Raleigh]

2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

That has happened for years in the NFL. 

This felt like more of a slap in the face than ever. Idk what else you want me to say

[Bama Panther]

2 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Under the old rule, this picture would show an incomplete pass, as the ball touching the ground, regardless of control, was enough to make a pass incomplete.

Under the current rule, the ball can touch the ground, so long as the receiver maintains control of the ball. The rule even states that movement of the ball does not mean control was lost. 

This all goes to the question I posed in my original post: can control be established and maintained with one hand during a reception? If it can, this should be a catch, as the ball never moves in T-Mac’s right hand when it touches the grab. Yes, his left hand came off, but the right did not and never lost control. 

[Bama Panther]

2 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Also, watch though the whole process and you will see T-Mac’s middle finger stay firmly planted on the NFL shield on the ball (and his fingers stay planted where they are). If he lost control, the fingers would have moved. 

[CRA]

I would wager you could give every single NFL ref the slow mo view of that catch and ask them what they would do in a game with it......and it would still be a very split call. 

for me, the ball rotated enough while hitting the the ground even with his hand firmly on it, that a good amount are going to say the ground was used to help complete the catch. 

NFL needs better rules.  I don't think they want that.  Because better rules either lead to less catches or dumb catches.  Instead, we get inconsistent calls. 

[Bama Panther]

27 minutes ago, CRA said:

I would wager you could give every single NFL ref the slow mo view of that catch and ask them what they would do in a game with it......and it would still be a very split call. 

for me, the ball rotated enough while hitting the the ground even with his hand firmly on it, that a good amount are going to say the ground was used to help complete the catch. 

NFL needs better rules.  I don't think they want that.  Because better rules either lead to less catches or dumb catches.  Instead, we get inconsistent calls. 

Rule 8, Section 3, Articles 1-4 leave a lot of room for discretion and subjectivity. For instance, the player has to maintain control through the ground but the rule also says this is Note 1:

1. Movement of the ball does not automatically result in loss of control.

Doesn't make a lot of sense. 

[NorthTryon]

On 12/16/2025 at 11:02 PM, hepcat said:

I can tell you with absolute certainty that if the Panthers were playing a team as the betting underdog that would have 100% have stood as a catch. I said in the game thread I'd bet my life savings that catch would be overturned because the game was being managed towards a Saints victory. It's not really super fun to watch the NFL anymore because of the managed outcomes. 

Once it was tied up 17 all and we punted, I knew what the outcome would be. The betting line was +2.5 vs -2.5 and the Saints ended up winning by three. I started immediately thinking of the hands to the face, the horseshite alignment call on the kickoff return. The three obvious first downs where catches were overturned or the ball was spotted a yard short. That's why I was so mad at Dave for turning down the 50-52yd FG to go up 10. I was texting my friends that we need to get points and get out of here with a win because keeping it close gives the officials a lot of leeway!