Arrowhead is done, as Chiefs make move to Kansas.

[Bama Panther]

26 minutes ago, UnluckyforSome said:

I think what might be overlooked is that Missouri, previously home to 2 teams, now has 0. If I were part of group trying to lure a team to St. Louis, or land an expansion team, I would be leading off with that exact reason why it would be crucial to grant NFL fans in Missouri a team they can call their own.

But couldn’t the situation also be viewed as, “Hey, Missouri, you’ve now had three chances (twice in StL and once in KC) to make it work through some partnership with the NFL teams concerned to build new stadiums. You’ve failed all three times. Sorry, not sorry.”?

[UnluckyforSome]

4 minutes ago, Bama Panther said:

But couldn’t the situation also be viewed as, “Hey, Missouri, you’ve now had three chances (twice in StL and once in KC) to make it work through some partnership with the NFL teams concerned to build new stadiums. You’ve failed all three times. Sorry, not sorry.”?

Don't disagree with that at all. Not so sure it would fly though. 

The Rams departing for a return to LA can be portrayed as unfair, and even rigged or manipulated. Everything was tied to the stadium being ranked in the top percent of buildings, and it was setup for them to have an escape clause. The league always wanted them in LA. The Cardinals leaving years and years ago is now ancient history. 

I don't care either way. I really don't. I have never lived in that part of the country, and I never will, but they certainly have a claim to be made on getting a team again.

[Pazhoosier89]

The Bears are looking at building a new domed stadium as well possibly across the state line in Indiana.

[UnluckyforSome]

37 minutes ago, Pazhoosier89 said:

The Bears are looking at building a new domed stadium as well possibly across the state line in Indiana.

The Bears have the added incentive to do something because Soldier Field is the smallest venue in the league with a capacity of only 61,500. 

[Brooklyn 3.0]

STL is not going to be in the running now lol. The new Chiefs stadium will sit on the border of each state supposedly, probably officially addressed in Kansas City too (just Kansas side). They're not moving it to the middle of flat fields Kansas somehwere.

[L-TownCat]

6 hours ago, UnluckyforSome said:

The move across the border has nothing to do with expansion. The fact will be that the state of Missouri, previously home to 2 teams, will no longer have a team at all.

Any expansion will require not 1 but at least 2 teams to balance the conferences and would eventually need to be as high as 8 teams in order to keep divisions even.  Adding a single team would be a scheduling nightmare.

It’s hard enough filling 32 rosters with NFL level talent.  Watering that down even further would hurt the product.  
 

Id rather see a D-league system to develop more players.

[UnluckyforSome]

1 minute ago, L-TownCat said:

Any expansion will require not 1 but at least 2 teams to balance the conferences and would eventually need to be as high as 8 teams in order to keep divisions even.  Adding a single team would be a scheduling nightmare.

It’s hard enough filling 32 rosters with NFL level talent.  Watering that down even further would hurt the product.  
 

Id rather see a D-league system to develop more players.

[djp14]

10 minutes ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

STL is not going to be in the running now lol. The new Chiefs stadium will sit on the border of each state supposedly, probably officially addressed in Kansas City too (just Kansas side). They're not moving it to the middle of flat fields Kansas somehwere.

Yeah, this is the equivalent of the Panthers moving to Rock Hill.

[Mike2.0]

12 minutes ago, L-TownCat said:

Any expansion will require not 1 but at least 2 teams to balance the conferences and would eventually need to be as high as 8 teams in order to keep divisions even.  Adding a single team would be a scheduling nightmare.

It’s hard enough filling 32 rosters with NFL level talent.  Watering that down even further would hurt the product.  
 

Id rather see a D-league system to develop more players.

A further problem would be more teams to share the money around. It’s one reason why some feel persuading NBA owners to accept two new teams will be difficult because they go from 1/30 to 1/32 in revenue. 

Will expansion happen? I’m not sure, but if the money keeps growing and they continue to expand into new markets, then I suppose expansion can’t be ruled out in the future. I suppose a number of teams would need to be added to maintain balance; however, there have been uneven numbers at times in the past, so they could schedule around it.

[UnluckyforSome]

1 minute ago, Mike2.0 said:

A further problem would be more teams to share the money around. It’s one reason why some feel persuading NBA owners to accept two new teams will be difficult because they go from 1/30 to 1/32 in revenue. 

Will expansion happen? I’m not sure, but if the money keeps growing and they continue to expand into new markets, then I suppose expansion can’t be ruled out in the future. I suppose a number of teams would need to be added to maintain balance; however, there have been uneven numbers at times in the past, so they could schedule around it.

If expansion happens it will be in North America. But by how many and suitable cities and markets would be challenges to overcome, among others. 

I do think at some point there could be a European league again, but not an NFL Europe-based division.

The single games are proven money-makers without having to commit to a team. 

[Mike2.0]

14 minutes ago, UnluckyforSome said:

If expansion happens it will be in North America. But by how many and suitable cities and markets would be challenges to overcome, among others. 

I do think at some point there could be a European league again, but not an NFL Europe-based division.

The single games are proven money-makers without having to commit to a team. 

I would tend to agree on the Europe front as it would require fans to support “their” team rather than their chosen team or simply attend an NFL game as a neutral. However, if there is sufficient demand and monetary gain, and they could make it work schedule wise, then it wouldn’t surprise me if the league did consider it in the future. 

It would be interesting to see which North American cities they would choose to add in a potential expansion. Personally I think creating an NBA D-League would arguably be a better option and create less requirements on facilities and stadiums.

[Paa Langfart]

Hate to break it to you all but by the time most of you younger folks have kids that are your age now,  it will ALL be scripted down to the finest details.  Will make pro wrestling look wild and unpredictable.

[UnluckyforSome]

11 minutes ago, Mike2.0 said:

I would tend to agree on the Europe front as it would require fans to support “their” team rather than their chosen team or simply attend an NFL game as a neutral. However, if there is sufficient demand and monetary gain, and they could make it work schedule wise, then it wouldn’t surprise me if the league did consider it in the future. 

It would be interesting to see which North American cities they would choose to add in a potential expansion. Personally I think creating an NBA D-League would arguably be a better option and create less requirements on facilities and stadiums.

The key word about Europe would be money, and would it be lucrative enough to justify the logistical headaches that would come along with establishing a division there. It would be a nightmare in a lot of ways.

The next big thing to come about will be the 18th game. I always thought that having 1 game, now that there is an odd number of games, played at a secondary (neutral) location would be a good idea. Like a Panthers game at Columbia or Raleigh. But I am sure there would be difficulties pulling it off, and historically that hasn't made much financial sense. It probably is past that time as well though.

I mention that because it is similar in some ways to a D-league. Again it all comes down to money and is it lucrative enough. The alternative leagues that try and make a run at it, never seem to last too long or be very compelling though.

 

Edited 2 hours ago by UnluckyforSome

[3838]

15 hours ago, UnluckyforSome said:

As a side effect to this, I would not be shocked if St. Louis is at the top of any expansion/relocation with Missouri no longer having a team.

I would ( be shocked ), St. Louis has lost two teams already. If you count the proposed "Stallions" in the early 90s , that would make three.