Remember when we passed on malik wills 3 times for matt corral?

[micnificent28]

To this day I never got what everybody didn't see in Willis and saw more in corral. Yes he had more work to do on fundamentals but he had more physical gifts and given the time we see how that has paid off. After sitting for two three seasons he now looks prime to take over the free agency market. 

There's a pretty good chance he's better than Bryce as well. There's just so much upside to a guy that's played very little but looks the part so far and we could have had them for a pile of magic beans.

[UnluckyforSome]

Him getting passed over though was a blessing. He would have no doubt about it busted if he were put in the fire from the get go.

[Joe Bear]

Just now, UnluckyforSome said:

Him getting passed over though was a blessing. He would have no doubt about it busted if he were put in the fire from the get go.

Truth. Willis was not ready in 2022 for the role he'd have had to play on a bad team. 

[micnificent28]

4 minutes ago, Joe Bear said:

Truth. Willis was not ready in 2022 for the role he'd have had to play on a bad team. 

Probably so but I'd argue you'd rather have a talented player who's been through rough times and let him build from that than to still not be sure what you have at the position

[Waldo]

1 minute ago, micnificent28 said:

Probably so but I'd argue you'd rather have a talented player who's been through rough times and let him build from that than to still not be sure what you have at the position

Getting the right guy at the right time matters. Teams blow their chance all the time. We had Baker in '22 but we had much bigger issues and he was thrown into the grinder of a bad team failing. Coaches and front office guys shield themselves with players all the time. Hence Baker being used as a DE on the scout team. It's dumb but that's the NFL

[GoobyPls]

Willis was awful in Tennessee and he had everyone’s darling Vrabel as his coach 

[micnificent28]

2 minutes ago, Waldo said:

Getting the right guy at the right time matters. Teams blow their chance all the time. We had Baker in '22 but we had much bigger issues and he was thrown into the grinder of a bad team failing. Coaches and front office guys shield themselves with players all the time. Hence Baker being used as a DE on the scout team. It's dumb but that's the NFL

That's a fair thought and I agree but at the same time all that you gave up to get Matt corral who's out of the league versus a guy who's now looking to be the number one free agent in the whole offseason looks like a gross oversight and miss evaluation of talent to me

[micnificent28]

7 minutes ago, GoobyPls said:

Willis was awful in Tennessee and he had everyone’s darling Vrabel as his coach 

You could say the same for baker and Sam here who have both made the pro bowl since leaving.

[micnificent28]

7 minutes ago, GoobyPls said:

Willis was awful in Tennessee and he had everyone’s darling Vrabel as his coach 

Awful is being out of the league like Corral..

[Waldo]

6 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

That's a fair thought and I agree but at the same time all that you gave up to get Matt corral who's out of the league versus a guy who's now looking to be the number one free agent in the whole offseason looks like a gross oversight and miss evaluation of talent to me

It happens and the trends show the real damage. Not even trying to bring in a decent #2 is way worse than missing on a guy who did fail out of his first team and needed work IMO.

Add taking XL over Ladd. Or Young over Stroud. Those say a lot more about the ability to evaluate tallent IMO too but it's why the team has been arse since Tepper got here. We are just washed arse this year at .500. 

[kungfoodude]

Willis would have never worked out here. Green Bay has a track record for developing QB's and we absolutely do not.

Now, would I have taken Willis over Corral? Probably. I was also REALLY not a fan of Willis after seeing him several times in college. Had a ton of very bad habits for a prospective NFL player.

 

[mrcompletely11]

13 minutes ago, GoobyPls said:

Willis was awful in Tennessee and he had everyone’s darling Vrabel as his coach 

Are you implying vrabel isnt a good coach?

[Jay Roosevelt]

Malik Willis at QB here with Matt Rhule - and later Frank Reich - would have been a disaster for his career. He went to one of the best places he could for his development and wasn't forced onto the field before he was ready.

[micnificent28]

12 minutes ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

Malik Willis at QB here with Matt Rhule - and later Frank Reich - would have been a disaster for his career. He went to one of the best places he could for his development and wasn't forced onto the field before he was ready.

He played in Tennessee.. he wasn't ready there. I think we are seeing a comment tread most QBs including Bryce, Caleb williams drake maye Sam darnold guys who have talent but aren't ready year one. I think we give up on talent to early instead of working with the guys who have the tools.