"Speculation around the league" that we've reached out to John Harbaugh

[kungfoodude]

7 minutes ago, Zaximus said:

I don't think this is real, but if it is, you take him over Canales I think.  The play calling has been really suspect and "playoffs" at 8-9 is not that impressive to me.  I felt the same when we made it at 7-9 years back.  Decisions like trotting XL week after week after dumb mistakes is questionable.  The RB gets this drive, the next gets that one.... questionable.  It would be odd to have a playoff coach fired but 8-9 is not really the norm for a playoff team so who knows.  I do expect him to be the coach next year though and we need a real backup and competition for Bryce (a Canales chosen QB).  

Brother I am not gonna sit here and let you fuging besmirch the name of that 2014 team. They were 7-8-1.

6 minutes ago, uncfan888 said:

And I don't think we revert to 5 wins next year. Our schedule this year was incredibly difficult and we won 8 games. We played the nfc west and Afc east.. 5 playoff teams between them. Plus the packers and the jags. Our schedule was tough

Sooo...did you not see next seasons schedule yet?

[hepcat]

2 hours ago, Waldo said:

Dave finished the year weak and as for the 8 wins we'll if anyone in the division wasn't terrible then it would have been 2 6 win teams and a 12 win team. All of the 8-9 teams would have been 6 win teams if they weren't playing each other.

Dave hasn't earned jack other than a participation trophy that Atlanta gave him. 

If he had beaten New Orleans one time I think the narrative around Canales would be very different right now 

[hepcat]

18 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Sooo...did you not see next seasons schedule yet?

Eh, I’ve come to think that looking at the schedule in advance is a fool’s errand. You have no idea who is going to be tough a year in advance especially when you don’t know when in the season you’ll play them. Teams would have looked at a late season Chiefs game in 2025 and thought f*ck we gotta play the Chiefs? But they fell apart this year. So anything can happen. 

[Waldo]

Just now, hepcat said:

If he had beaten New Orleans one time I think the narrative around Canales would be very different right now 

That and finishing weak. 1-3 to wrap up the year is not something to celebrate IMO. 

 

[Waldo]

1 minute ago, hepcat said:

Eh, I’ve come to think that looking at the schedule in advance is a fool’s errand. You have no idea who is going to be tough a year in advance especially when you don’t know when in the season you’ll play them. Teams would have looked at a late season Chiefs game in 2025 and thought f*ck we gotta play the Chiefs? But they fell apart this year. So anything can happen. 

Yup.

I'm more concerned with this crews ability to faceplate after doing anything good. Getting into the playoffs guarantees they will faceplant next season after not making the changes they need to make to improve. 

[Chaos]

Hire JH, demote Dave to OC. Get a real QB. Super Bowl. 

[hepcat]

4 minutes ago, Waldo said:

That and finishing weak. 1-3 to wrap up the year is not something to celebrate IMO. 

 

Yea, they aren’t playing their best football right now and I don’t expect them to come out on Saturday and look like a wildly different team. This team looked their best when Dowdle was running hard and forcing defenses to key on stopping him. He has noticeably less burst that earlier in the season now. 

And it’s crazy because Atlanta fired Raheem Morris who finally had Atlanta looking decent at the end of the season finishing 4-0. And instead of building on that momentum, they fired everyone. They had a stretch of games mid season where they lost by a point to the Patriots, lost in overtime to the Colts, and lost in overtime to the Panthers, and obviously in the Panthers game Penix tore his ACL again. If Penix didn’t get hurt I think the Falcons pull that game out and both team’s seasons look very different. 

[kungfoodude]

21 minutes ago, hepcat said:

Eh, I’ve come to think that looking at the schedule in advance is a fool’s errand. You have no idea who is going to be tough a year in advance especially when you don’t know when in the season you’ll play them. Teams would have looked at a late season Chiefs game in 2025 and thought f*ck we gotta play the Chiefs? But they fell apart this year. So anything can happen. 

Not saying that isn't true but it does project to potentially be even tougher than the #9 SOS we had this season.

[Waldo]

4 minutes ago, hepcat said:

Yea, they aren’t playing their best football right now and I don’t expect them to come out on Saturday and look like a wildly different team. This team looked their best when Dowdle was running hard and forcing defenses to key on stopping him. He has noticeably less burst that earlier in the season now. 

And it’s crazy because Atlanta fired Raheem Morris who finally had Atlanta looking decent at the end of the season finishing 4-0. And instead of building on that momentum, they fired everyone. They had a stretch of games mid season where they lost by a point to the Patriots, lost in overtime to the Colts, and lost in overtime to the Panthers, and obviously in the Panthers game Penix tore his ACL again. If Penix didn’t get hurt I think the Falcons pull that game out and both team’s seasons look very different. 

Dowdle was fresh and it was early in  the year. It gets more difficult later in the year when teams improve, gel and get in their grooves. Hunt being out also plays into it but then when was the last time the Panthers adjusted well with personnel?

Morris did some good but the QB situation was enough to sink both him and the GM. I'm more on the 'if they played Cousins they could have won the division this year' side. It would have been ugly but it was really low hanging fruit. Penix getting g I injured again and losing the division by a game was enough to know he isn't the guy IMO. 2 years is the standard and he still falls on the wrong side.

Im surprised Lovie is back. I have zero faith he can build up any team. Did a decent job maintaining someone else's build but how he handled this year vs the last 2 was enough to give him a pink slip IMO.

 

[strato]

6 pages. Wow did someone dis Bryce again? 
 

Can’t read it all but this is low hanging clicks by the rumor mongers. It doesn’t stand to reason. To me. 
 

I guess I am biased here with being negative on Bryce but I can’t see Harbaugh hitching his wagon to Bryce. Meaning Tepper would willingly jettison his boy and Canales for Harbaugh. Which I can’t see. 

[kungfoodude]

3 minutes ago, Waldo said:

Dowdle was fresh and it was early in  the year. It gets more difficult later in the year when teams improve, gel and get in their grooves. Hunt being out also plays into it but then when was the last time the Panthers adjusted well with personnel?

Morris did some good but the QB situation was enough to sink both him and the GM. I'm more on the 'if they played Cousins they could have won the division this year' side. It would have been ugly but it was really low hanging fruit. Penix getting g I injured again and losing the division by a game was enough to know he isn't the guy IMO. 2 years is the standard and he still falls on the wrong side.

Im surprised Lovie is back. I have zero faith he can build up any team. Did a decent job maintaining someone else's build but how he handled this year vs the last 2 was enough to give him a pink slip IMO.

 

Hunt was out when Dowdle had about 9 total carries on the season. Hell he was about 2 YPC at the time Hunt went down.

Also, I am less inclined to think Cousins was the sole reason for Atlanta to come roaring back. He was basically Bryce Young. 

In his eight starts he went 5-3, had 2 total games over 200 yds passing and only scored 11 TD's.

[Waldo]

5 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Hunt was out when Dowdle had about 9 total carries on the season. Hell he was about 2 YPC at the time Hunt went down.

Also, I am less inclined to think Cousins was the sole reason for Atlanta to come roaring back. He was basically Bryce Young. 

In his eight starts he went 5-3, had 2 total games over 200 yds passing and only scored 11 TD's.

Well that's about 10 wins on 17 games so that just carries my water for me. That's how bad the NFCS was this year. I am not trying to say he was good but just good enough.

You're right. So it just Corbett desolving as the year went on? 

Edited 19 hours ago by Waldo

[Jay Roosevelt]

12 hours ago, csx said:

Thats my hunch but its working in Denver. 

To an extent (I don't think they're as good as their record indicates) but Sean Payton never really had a drop-off in New Orleans the way Harbaugh has had in Baltimore the last few seasons.

Plus, there is a good argument to be made (as much as I hate saying it) that the Saints should have made at least one - if not two - Super Bowls toward the end of Payton's tenure. They had the fluke Minneapolis Miracle play one year that knocked them out and then got screwed by the refs on that P.I. no-call against the Rams the next year.

Plus, Payton did that with an aging Drew Brees. Harbaugh has had prime Lamar Jackson (albeit dealing with injuries at times) and has only made one AFC Championship during Lamar's time there. Granted, you can put some of that on Lamar as well, but not all of it.

[Daddy_Uncle]

Harbaugh, like BB hasn't done much without a great QB