Dan Morgan: Panthers will pickup BY’s 5th year.

[NAS]

3 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

He hasn't but you have to remember that we are talking from the "franchises perspective" when a lot of us are saying "earned."

I don't think many of us actually want this to happen but this coaching staff, FO and owner are way more convinced.

What's the alternative?  Let him play without picking it up and risk him becoming a free agent? 

I am definitely opposed to a long term contract unless he removes all doubt next year he can carry this franchise but the 5th year option is logical.  There hasn't been a #1 draft pick that hasn't had their 5th year option picked up since Baker Mayfield which was dumb move by the Browns

Edited January 13 by NAS

[Moonraker]

I listened to it...he gave a total non-answer when it came to extending Bryce. He also said they will absolutely be bringing in competition to the QB room (and every position). We'll see what they do, but there was nothing that set off alarm sirens in my head during that.

[frankw]

48 minutes ago, NAS said:

now draft a developmental QB or sign a legitimate backup to compete and push him to be better.  Andy Dalton is washed and should be released. 

This would be the path for a competent franchise. It remains to be seen if it will actually happen.

[strato]

So, he threatens with the extension and we’ll feel better about the 5th year. Kind of like a plea negation. 

[NAS]

2 minutes ago, Moonraker said:

I listened to it...he gave a total non-answer when it came to extending Bryce. He also said they will absolutely be bringing in competition to the QB room (and every position). We'll see what they do, but there was nothing that set off alarm sirens in my head during that.

Agreed you can't expect Dan to expose his cards to the media.  

[OldhamA]

4 minutes ago, NAS said:

How has he not? you get him for another year for $26MM which is reasonable for his level of performance.  Do you think you can get a better QB on the free agent market for that same amount? 

Jameis Winston is getting paid $4m this year.

Davis Mills is getting paid $7m this year.

Sam Howell is getting paid $1m this year.

Gardner Minshew is getting paid $1m this year.

 

So yes, yes I do.

[mrcompletely11]

10 minutes ago, NAS said:

How has he not? you get him for another year for $26MM which is reasonable for his level of performance.  Do you think you can get a better QB on the free agent market for that same amount? 

Hes been objectively one of the worst qbs in the nfl for 3 years now

[NAS]

Just now, OldhamA said:

Jameis Winston is getting paid $4m this year.

Davis Mills is getting paid $7m this year.

Sam Howell is getting paid $1m this year.

Gardner Minshew is getting paid $1m this year.

 

So yes, yes I do.

We know what Jameis, Howell and Minshew are - not a long term option at all.

Davis Mills is interesting but such a small sample size.  Even Kyle Allen had a nice run of games once upon a time.  There's no proven commodity for starting level QB you can build around.  Malik Willis is the only one I would try to bring in for legitimate competition but he'll probably want to be a guaranteed starter somewhere else this offseason.

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, NAS said:

We know what Jameis, Howell and Minshew are - not a long term option at all.

Davis Mills is interesting but such a small sample size.  Even Kyle Allen had a nice run of games once upon a time.  There's no proven commodity for starting level QB you can build around.  Malik Willis is the only one I would try to bring in for legitimate competition but he'll probably want to be a guaranteed starter somewhere else this offseason.

Battered spouse syndrome 

[jamos14]

2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Hes been objectively one of the worst qbs in the nfl for 3 years now

 

No.  He has been one of (if not he most) inconsistent players in the NFL.

 

Extreme highs and extreme lows.   Based on those highs, he has 100% earned a 5th year.

 

Based on the lows, he has shown we can't give him a long term deal yet.

[kungfoodude]

9 minutes ago, NAS said:

What's the alternative?  Let him play without picking it up and risk him becoming a free agent? 

I am definitely opposed to a long term contract unless he removes all doubt next year he can carry this franchise but the 5th year option is logical.  There hasn't been a #1 draft pick that hasn't had their 5th year option picked up since Baker Mayfield which was dumb move by the Browns

I don't personally view that as a risk because I don't view him as an NFL starting QB.

And although there haven't been many #1 overall picks to not get a 5th year option there have been ample first round QB's and first round picks overall. It's not a crazy outlier for the 1st round or even top 10.

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, jamos14 said:

 

No.  He has been one of (if not he most) inconsistent players in the NFL.

 

Extreme highs and extreme lows.   Based on those highs, he has 100% earned a 5th year.

 

Based on the lows, he has shown we can't give him a long term deal yet.

minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Hes been objectively one of the worst qbs in the nfl for 3 years now

[Daddy_Uncle]

56 minutes ago, Tbe said:

Dan just said a long term contract for BY this year is still an option.

 

"Still an option" gives me hope that that is just GM speak. Doesn't make me confident that they will

[jamos14]

Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Hes been objectively one of the worst qbs in the nfl for 3 years now

Guess you posted the same thing 2x so I could poo you again.