Wild Card QB Performance Rankings

[Navy_football]

34 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

This is a drop.

Edit: it doesn't matter if it's the most perfectest throw, this is catchable. Or it looked like it live and looks like it here.

Honestly don't think it could have been much better now that I look at it. Receiver had time to gather himself and decide how he wanted to catch it, and then proceeded to let it go through his hands. He could have come back to it, he could have slid and bodied it, he could have caught it with fingers pointed down, so many options. I mean the QB could have put it out in front of him and maybe he would have had to speed up, reach out away from his body, dive, or jump for it. None of that. Just slow down and catch the ball. 

[CRA]

58 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

This is a drop.

Edit: it doesn't matter if it's the most perfectest throw, this is catchable. Or it looked like it live and looks like it here.

the real sin here is.....

game on the line.  4 downs.  We didn't get one ball to the hands of Tmac or Coker.  That's a choice.

final play and we are going to Jimmy Horn Jr?  

Losing is fine.  Not catching the ball is fine.  Going to down swinging and not taking a swing w/ the dudes he got you there is the sin.  And it's a choice made.  I could live w/ 89 not catching a ball in double coverage to win the game.   You got to go to the dudes that matter in the big moments.  

I put that sad final drive on both Dave and Bryce

[CRA]

23 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

Honestly don't think it could have been much better now that I look at it. Receiver had time to gather himself and decide how he wanted to catch it, and then proceeded to let it go through his hands. He could have come back to it, he could have slid and bodied it, he could have caught it with fingers pointed down, so many options. I mean the QB could have put it out in front of him and maybe he would have had to speed up, reach out away from his body, dive, or jump for it. None of that. Just slow down and catch the ball. 

Given it's rookie Jimmy Horn Jr who probably caught 4 balls all season downfield....throwing it down and behind him probably does matter.    

It's the whole Bryce conundrum.  His role is to lift boats.  Instead it's the rookie who doesn't really get passes needed to make all the adjustments. 

[PNW_PantherMan]

1 minute ago, CRA said:

I put that sad final drive on both Dave and Bryce

I'm just as tired as watching Bryce as anyone.  But that loss is more on Dave than anyone.

[CRA]

1 minute ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

I'm just as tired as watching Bryce as anyone.  But that loss is more on Dave than anyone.

I think Dave is horrific in big moments.  But you can't excuse Bryce from that final drive.   And I mean, Bryce played a great game for Bryce.  I'm not trying to overly bash him.  He gave us way more than he generally does. 

But if we are talking any other QB in final drive scenario......not moving the ball one inch w/ 4 downs is going to be a QB convo to some extent. 

[PNW_PantherMan]

10 minutes ago, CRA said:

I think Dave is horrific in big moments.  But you can't excuse Bryce from that final drive.   And I mean, Bryce played a great game for Bryce.  I'm not trying to overly bash him.  He gave us way more than he generally does. 

But if we are talking any other QB in final drive scenario......not moving the ball one inch w/ 4 downs is going to be a QB convo to some extent. 

It was kind of the opposite of a lot of "good" Bryce games.  He does nothing until the end of the game, and we somehow win the game.  This game he was pretty good for most of the game and did nothing on the final drive.

[CRA]

1 minute ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

It was kind of the opposite of a lot of "good" Bryce games.  He does nothing until the end of the game, and we somehow win the game.  This game he was pretty good for most of the game and did nothing on the final drive.

there were really 2 games this season where Dave and Bryce were pressed to the move the ball with a legit time constraint forced on them.....both times, the ball never moved an inch in 4 downs.  

Dave Canales needs every single rep he can get next preseason.  He he needs to quickly move on from his mindset last year that he has arrived and doesn't need work. 

[strato]

16 minutes ago, CRA said:

I think Dave is horrific in big moments.  But you can't excuse Bryce from that final drive.   And I mean, Bryce played a great game for Bryce.  I'm not trying to overly bash him.  He gave us way more than he generally does. 

But if we are talking any other QB in final drive scenario......not moving the ball one inch w/ 4 downs is going to be a QB convo to some extent. 

I’d point to the Rams win and those two 4th TDs but I am sure there is plenty of poo you can point to as well. 

Whatever game it was with the clusterfug last second FG miss would suffice. Where it was so rushed and the kicker slipped. 
 

Mixed bag. 

Edit. Saints game maybe, for that rushed FG blunder. Was that 1st half? My memory sucks… Some other end of 1st half stuff fits.
 

Yeah the same thing that happened Saturday happened another time. Want to say maybe it was the Saints too. 

Edited 33 minutes ago by strato

[mav1234]

39 minutes ago, CRA said:

the real sin here is.....

game on the line.  4 downs.  We didn't get one ball to the hands of Tmac or Coker.  That's a choice.

final play and we are going to Jimmy Horn Jr?  

Losing is fine.  Not catching the ball is fine.  Going to down swinging and not taking a swing w/ the dudes he got you there is the sin.  And it's a choice made.  I could live w/ 89 not catching a ball in double coverage to win the game.   You got to go to the dudes that matter in the big moments.  

I put that sad final drive on both Dave and Bryce

It's weird. Game on the line, Bryce would force it to AT.  He refuses to do that to Coker or TMac it seems.  And I think at times you need to let your playmakers make plays

[PNW_PantherMan]

I’d have rather seen a pick from forcing a ball to TMac or Coker