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Congratulations to the players Wed Apr 6


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Everything I am reading says the lockout ends tomorrow and the players win pending appeals.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/commentary/news/story?id=6293274

Q: Will Judge Nelson issue the injunction and end the lockout?

A: Yes. There are two reasons to expect her to issue the injunction even though it is the most drastic remedy that is offered in American jurisprudence. Injunctions are granted only in compelling circumstances, and they are extremely rare in antitrust cases. But, even in a court system that is reluctant to issue injunctions, the players have a powerful and persuasive argument. There is little doubt that the NFL is using its monopoly power to extract concessions from the players. There is little doubt that the decertification is real and will be upheld. And there is little doubt that the loss of an entire season is a serious and irreparable harm to the NFL's 1,700 players.

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Judge may have an immediate ruling, it's not like she's not already receiving pretrial discovery and supportive docs.

Assuming the players win is a bit premature, but hopefully she does issue the injunction and we can get on with the offseason. FA period should start 24-48 hours later according to multiple sources.

Hopefully, we'll know something by the end of the week or early next week. FA will do a lot to shape the draft.

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Judge may have an immediate ruling, it's not like she's not already receiving pretrial discovery and supportive docs.

Assuming the players win is a bit premature, but hopefully she does issue the injunction and we can get on with the offseason. FA period should start 24-48 hours later according to multiple sources.

Hopefully, we'll know something by the end of the week or early next week. FA will do a lot to shape the draft.

But even if the lockout is lifted we cant officially sign anyone to a contract until a CBA is completed....right?

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Judge may have an immediate ruling, it's not like she's not already receiving pretrial discovery and supportive docs.

Assuming the players win is a bit premature, but hopefully she does issue the injunction and we can get on with the offseason. FA period should start 24-48 hours later according to multiple sources.

Hopefully, we'll know something by the end of the week or early next week. FA will do a lot to shape the draft.

well, you posted the link saying why it would likely not be an immediate ruling

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Judge may have an immediate ruling, it's not like she's not already receiving pretrial discovery and supportive docs.

Assuming the players win is a bit premature, but hopefully she does issue the injunction and we can get on with the offseason. FA period should start 24-48 hours later according to multiple sources.

Hopefully, we'll know something by the end of the week or early next week. FA will do a lot to shape the draft.

So, players contracts are no longer void after the ruling?

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