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Who does Cam remind you of?

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By methodtoll,
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The_Mango55 Newbie

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Bullsh**!

You honestly think Cam is more athletic than Michael Vick? What have you seen that would lead you to believe this?

Cam: 6'5, 248

Ben: 6'5, 241

So he's the same size, Ben is still harder to tackle, and probably "tougher" because he's too dumb to feel pain.

Steve Smith would disagree

Big deal, Steve Smith plays on the Panthers. Vincent Jackson would agree with me, hell Hakeem Nicks would probably say Eli is the most accurate QB in the NFL if you asked him in public.

GTFO

If I don't think my rookie QB is the best QB in the league right now I have to leave? He's an amazing young QB and I've already said he looks like Steve Young in Ben's body, but he's not "second to none"

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I don't know who to compare Cam to, he is the most confident rookie I've ever seen play the hardest position in sports. I don't think he is impressed by the NFL defenders that much and I think he adapts to them before they do with him.

Why does Cam draw so much attention to himself after a TD? To me that's a clue to his character. You guys are ignoring it now because he's new, but I wonder what you'll be saying when he or someone in his posse gets in trouble with the law.

If I'm RR I'm pulling him the next he pulls his jersey or holds up the "I'm number one" sign. Totally classless and has no place in professional sports. I'm surprised (hmm..maybe not) papa Cecil didn't learn him better.

AHAHAHAHA Touchdowns celebrations and getting in trouble with the law are positively correlated. Obvious troll is obvious.

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So he's the same size, Ben is still harder to tackle, and probably "tougher" because he's too dumb to feel pain.

from what I've seen, and I've watched a LOT of Stiller games.. Cam is as good as Ben in all aspects. Ben isn't harder to tackle.. Justin Tuck literally rode Cam Newton for a few seconds in that preseason game. He's also shown even when he's wrapped up, he's going to get the ball off because he won't go down.

he has MUCH quicker feet than Ben, which helps him make the 1st and often 2nd defender miss.. His pocket awareness has proven to be VERY SOLID.. I don't want to say great, but it's very good..

this mysterious notion that Ben does what Cam doesn't has me confused about what you all are seeing that I haven't...

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He's really unique and he stands so high in the pocket that he sees everything down the field. He's not ridiculously fast but he can move VERY well for a player his size. Rushing TD's are more about play calling in the red zone in most cases than pure talent. Chris Weinke had SIX rushing scores his rookie season. I haven't seen a single rush from Newton that made me think he'll ever break off a 50 yard TD run. His average per rush isn't as impressive as even Daunte Culpepper or Donovan McNabb early in their career. I suspect as his career progresses and he becomes more of a pocket passer, we'll only see the rare rush for a first down every now and then. What really makes him special with his footwork is his ability to use that athleticism to avoid sacks and extend plays.

And while Cam does throw an incredibly hard pass, the accuracy isn't NFL level elite. Which is why QB's with his particular set of skills use that mobility to extend plays and find open targets as opposed to attempting to drop passes through double coverage. He has had a few VERY nice throws on deep balls this year in regards to accuracy and it leads me to believe that his deep ball accuracy is better than his intermediate accuracy. Minnesota's version of Daunte Culpepper had ridiculous accuracy on his passes. Unless I am mistaken, he had one of the best competition percentages for a season in NCAA history coming out of college. That kind of passer is not Cam Newton. I think he's more like Randall Cunningham in the sense that he will probably hover around the 60% completion mark his whole career and like Cunningham, the completions that he makes will likely go for a lot of yards because he can keep plays alive long enough to find an open man deep and has the arm strength to hit him. He isn't the pure athlete that Randall Cunningham was in his prime either but he's a much bigger and stronger player suggesting possible durability in the future that Cunningham didn't really have.

I have never seen a QB stand so tall in the pocket and not have a tremendous hitch in his mechanics. In that sense he's pretty unique to the position in my opinion.

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He's really unique and he stands so high in the pocket that he sees everything down the field. He's not ridiculously fast but he can move VERY well for a player his size. Rushing TD's are more about play calling in the red zone in most cases than pure talent. Chris Weinke had SIX rushing scores his rookie season. I haven't seen a single rush from Newton that made me think he'll ever break off a 50 yard TD run. His average per rush isn't as impressive as even Daunte Culpepper or Donovan McNabb early in their career. I suspect as his career progresses and he becomes more of a pocket passer, we'll only see the rare rush for a first down every now and then. What really makes him special with his footwork is his ability to use that athleticism to avoid sacks and extend plays.

And while Cam does throw an incredibly hard pass, the accuracy isn't NFL level elite. Which is why QB's with his particular set of skills use that mobility to extend plays and find open targets as opposed to attempting to drop passes through double coverage. He has had a few VERY nice throws on deep balls this year in regards to accuracy and it leads me to believe that his deep ball accuracy is better than his intermediate accuracy. Minnesota's version of Daunte Culpepper had ridiculous accuracy on his passes. Unless I am mistaken, he had one of the best competition percentages for a season in NCAA history coming out of college. That kind of passer is not Cam Newton. I think he's more like Randall Cunningham in the sense that he will probably hover around the 60% completion mark his whole career and like Cunningham, the completions that he makes will likely go for a lot of yards because he can keep plays alive long enough to find an open man deep and has the arm strength to hit him. He isn't the pure athlete that Randall Cunningham was in his prime either but he's a much bigger and stronger player suggesting possible durability in the future that Cunningham didn't really have.

I have never seen a QB stand so tall in the pocket and not have a tremendous hitch in his mechanics. In that sense he's pretty unique to the position in my opinion.

Did you watch his preseason runs....Cam has that potential. I think there was a stats about how 20+ yard runs actually occured in entire seasons and the preseason he put big runs together at an absurd rate. His doesn't have Mike Vick but he has speed....it is very decieving. Most of his runs involve him running through piles. If Newton finds some real space.....he has surprising moves and speed.

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