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Finally forming the Panthers system?

Doc Holiday

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Ok, much like how the Steelers, the Patriots and any team ran by Bill Percells, have they're system, do you think the Panthers have finally found they're system yet?

Last year we saw a different approach to the offseason by Fox and Hurney then in previous seasons, in previous season I've heard Hurney say "we just draft the best player available and then fit the system to the Player". Last year we did just the opposite, we went out and drafted the Players that best fit the system that we wanted to run, and end result was probably our single best draft since the 2001 draft that brought Steve Smith, Dan Morgan and Kris Jenkins to the team, by bringing Otah, Stewart and Godfrey.

Now we really won't know until we see this years draft because with the cap space issues we won't be making many FA moves, but if the Panthers can establish they're system and don't for some reason decided to break away from the system that brought them success last year I think we can be in very good shape for next season.

So what do you guys think, are we establishing a system or did we just get lucky in the draft last year?

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For the most part, I feel good about the players they draft. I Keary Colbert was the biggest bust I can think of lately, but they draft some good defensive players (Beason, Davis, Game, Godfrey, Marshall) just to name a few.

I hope we get some OL depth in the draft, the panthers always know who to draft.

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We have never had back to back winning seasons, so no the Panthers haven't found their system.

Edit: and injuries would never be an excuse if it was in place, because we would be able to plug in the next man and not see a huge drop off.

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We have never had back to back winning seasons, so no the Panthers haven't found their system.

Edit: and injuries would never be an excuse if it was in place, because we would be able to plug in the next man and not see a huge drop off.

I never said we had a system in place, I was raising the question about if we are putting one together, and not just waving our fingers in the wind, which from what I have gathered from past comments from Hurney before last year was the case.

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That is what every good team in the NFL does. Just b/c there is a WR at a pick who coukd be a perrenial probowler but u got 4 quality ones on ur theam, why draft him(hypothtically speaking, of course) Great teams are able to draft by need and not bpa.

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They have a foundation in place, but there are still elements of change I'd love to see.

Being a longtime critic of both Mike McCoy and Mike Trgovac, I was glad to see both depart. That said, change isn't always for the better, so I'm cautiously optimistic until we have more to go on.

Pro scouting is still an issue for me. The team improves by leaps and bounds by replaccing prior head of college scouting Tony Softli with Don Gregory. I'd like to see a similar thing happen with head of pro scouting Mark Koncz, but I'm not holding my breath.

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I think we are establishing a system, better than the strategy we used earlier on.

Everybody always commented about the whole "square peg/round hole" thing with Fox the way he built a power running game using players like Deshaun Foster, Mike Wahle, Justin Hartwig, Evan Mathis. Guys who weren't built for that type of scheme.

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RB, I said it in another thread but I think Fox may have relied more on Henning to help build the offense and if Henning had input into personnel as I think he may have that may have contributed to the square peg/round hole thing. Look at the type of linemen they have gotten since Henning and Maser (the guy I REALLY wanted fired..and that was after 2005) left for example.

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I don't think that we are far off from being very successful.

However, I don't think, until last year with the running game, that we were following "Fox's" system.

As the pundits put it, "John Fox is known for his power running game, and his excellent front 4 on D. Well until last year, we had a horrible run game, and we have not had a dominate front 4 in years.

The system that I would love to see for us, is draft for the trenches for the next couple of years, and resign the players that mean the most to us. Beason, Davis, Peppers, etc....

Lets don't start the FA train, as it seems to derail more often than not.

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I think that the draft is part luck to begin with. You don't know how a player is going to perform in the pro's. That being said, they should continue what they did last year and try to fill what holes we do have.

The Draft is not as much luck as you think. Teams spend loads of money on guys that go to collage games and scout players. They see things we dont and they know what type of player to look for. With that said all teams reach sometimes hoping to replace a lost star and most of the time it ends up badly. Eric Sheldon comes to mind. Some Draft classes are better then others as I feel that this year may be a poor one for what we need but next year may have some really good players in it. The Draft is alot of things but none of them are luck.

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RB, I said it in another thread but I think Fox may have relied more on Henning to help build the offense and if Henning had input into personnel as I think he may have that may have contributed to the square peg/round hole thing. Look at the type of linemen they have gotten since Henning and Maser (the guy I REALLY wanted fired..and that was after 2005) left for example.

yea... Magazu's gotten real improvement out of this unit.

since he was hired line blocking has gotten much much better over the past 2 seasons.

see, I can say something positive.:willy_nilly:

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