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Mayock Torches Coples

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sml1950 Newbie

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In Hurney's interview yesterday he said that safety of the #9 pick would play a big role in the player we drafted. You can be damn sure that if we draft anyone with red flags that he has exhusted every avenue ( like with Cam) in determining the truth behind of those problems. With Coples, I'm thinking he likes money more than football, which is never a good thing.

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To be fair, he did have Cam rated in the 20s because he was afraid of off the field issues. Which, let's be honest, was a legitimate concern. Even Ryan Kalil said he didn't want to play with an arrogant guy like. But, then everyone got to know Cam, and he was definitely different that everyone expected.

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To be fair, he did have Cam rated in the 20s because he was afraid of off the field issues. Which, let's be honest, was a legitimate concern. Even Ryan Kalil said he didn't want to play with an arrogant guy like. But, then everyone got to know Cam, and he was definitely different that everyone expected.

Everyone didn't have him rated that low. And it was a legit concern to the folks that didn't believe in him.

He's questioning Coples drive just like he did Cam. And I tend to believe he'll be fine.

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The reality is that it doesn't matter where Mayock has Coples ranked as he doesn't participate in the draft. On the other hand where all the teams have him ranked does make a difference. And I suspect there are a bunch of them that have ranked Coples as a first rounder for sure. It only takes one. How many folks had The Golden Calf of Bristol as a first rounder two years ago? Or Chris Johnson the year before that??

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The trick here with the Panthers is that while they are going to draft a safe pick, who they consider to be a safe pick is only known to them. Hurney said yesterday in the PFT interview they had Cam as the safest pick in the draft. No one on here would have thought that at the time but we or the media neither have the access and resources to make the educated decision the do.

Guys like Mayock make their projections based off of film study, combine numbers and general public information. Based on that I completely understand why he had Cam ranked where he had him. That is what you have to keep in mind when reading or listening to these guys.

I'm just glad that Hurney and the scouting department is as good as they are. As much as some bitch about it there are a lot of teams that are way worse and only a few that better.

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In an industry full of so many morons even the halfway respected of the bunch sometimes feel the need to make a brash statement to get the hits up and take a low-risk gamble at being anointed the next fortune-teller.

The funny thing about media is that they are rarely called to the carpet for their comments and never compensated for being accurate.

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Poe is Cam? Me no understand..

Coples is Cam? Ditto..

No...they arent.

Coples is a first rounder but maybe Mayock is making a dramatic statement that a team cannot draft Coples and then be very confident about the pick.

Is Coples better than Robert Quinn? How Bout Collegiate Jamaal Anderson? Hmmm. Be afraid..

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Cam Newton won a Heisman and a BCS championship in only one year with his team.

Dontari Poe couldn't even formulate a 30 second highlight reel in the C-USA (yes, that's a conference).

How are they similar?

If going by college success, how is Coples a good comparison, then??

I'm referring to Poe as an incoming prospect. His combine numbers couldn't have been better if it was a video game. Because of that flash, there's the glimpse that he could be outstanding, but a good chance that he could bust...very similar to what we thought about Cam this time last year. I was excited for Cam, but realized that there was a good chance that his style just wouldn't work.

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There's a reason why Mayock works for the NFL Network and not a team...

It's also important to remember Mayock is in the entertainment industry, this kind of opinion draws attention.

Aaahhh, but even the ones who actually do work for NFL teams still manage to screw these things up way more than they care to admit.

(see the article above, and/or review the drafting history of the New York Jets)

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Sigh. It keeps being said every thread but it is misleading.

Mayock said it himself as the draft was coming closer that if he was able to talk to Newton for an extended amount of time and find out for sure how much he wanted it, he would draft him number one without any hesitation. The primary reason that I got from him for putting him behind Gabbert was because of his questions surrounding his character, which is fair I guess. But ability wise, I don't think he actually felt Newton was that much, if at all, behind Gabbert and had he known how good of a guy Cam was/is, he would have taken him #1.

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