If we lose next week to the Seahawks, fire Rivera after the game.

[Stroupe-a-loop]

you could very well be right here..............

but the folks on this board won't wait 4 games much less 4 yrs. for that improvement.

And they'll do what exactly? Be pissy, whine all the time, and demand the coach and GM be fired? Boy, won't that be terrible.

[ckad79]

When can we start talking about the draft?

You should always be focused on the draft. If Hurney was more focused on the draft, he might learn how to draft well deep instead of bringing in scrub after scrub that can't return a punt.

[CatMan72]

LOL, so we're not even going to give Rivera a full 2nd season?

[Raskle]

fug that. I wanted Harbaugh, but that ship has sailed. Firing Don Ron before his second season completes would be stupid in the least. If anyone needs to go, it's the guy who is responsible for the last 10 years of overpaying, draft trading that makes even Big Al in his grave go "WTF?", and continues to push for his failed draftees to stay on board because they "sell seats."

I say let Rivera stick around to see his system completely implemented, with guys who fit the style he's trying to establish, before we make a final judgment. I think he should show more input into the defensive playcalling, but I'm not even ready to fire McD before Hurlney.

[bigjohn]

If we don't win at least 8 games then house needs to be cleaned.

Didn't we already do that?

[bigjohn]

Coaches, like players, need a little time to develop as well. I agree he blew the clock management somewhat at the end of the first half (although I understand his thinking-- don't give the ball back to Ryan before the half).

Anywho, there's more to coaching than just play calling and clock management, and I think Rivera does pretty well on handling players. The jury is still out on developing talent (which is more of your assistants job anyway).

I'm not saying he's the next Lombardi, but it's too early to start firing head coaches.

[panthers55]

McDermott wasn't the reason we lost, the defensive gameplan was actually pretty good. It was simply breakdowns by players who didn't make plays and weren't where they needed to be. This defense is a high accountability defense which requires players to be where they need to be on each play. When they aren't we give up big plays. You either go with an aggressive defense which requires players to tackle solidly and be where they need to be or you go with a bend don't break defense where everyone plays loosely and you run to the ball. Both defenses have their issues. Frankly I would rather live and die with an aggressive defense then die by hoping the other defense makes a mistake and watching then matching up and down the field. If we had a good free safety against Atlanta we would be celebrating a win. Anyone think it is McDermott's fault that both Nakamura and Martin suck and we haven't had a decent safety in years.

[AceBoogie]

The real issue lies with JR. There is a reason his sons stepped down. We have an owner that set us back ten years with a roster cutting "youth movement" which was really geared for saving his pockets during the locked out. He wanted to keep the players locked out as well as the officials. There is a reason Marty Hurney hasn't been fired and why Ron got the job because both are just JR yes men. This team will never reach his potential until there is a change in ownership

[Awesomeness!!]

wow..

[Awesomeness!!]

Saw this one coming...Wilson has a career day, and even the offense sucks ass now..move the team to South Dakota

[CarolinaCatBrigade]

Unprepared every week

[Panther53521]

FIRE!!! everyone from Hurney down

[NanuqoftheNorth]

Anyone think it is McDermott's fault that both Nakamura and Martin suck and we haven't had a decent safety in years.

Agreed, thanks Marty!