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Cam Newton: Best First Two Seasons Ever


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This is quite possibly the most overlooked situation on the team. What an absolutely brilliant point! Jake would toss those wounded ducks to the heavens and when Smitty couldnt make a play, the Mighty mighty Kasay would step to the plate and crush it. Mare, Medlock, nor Gano can hold Kasay's jock.

Matt Moore and Clausen had Kasey...and Smitty..

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I would take 2003-07 Jake over rookie and soph Cam in the 4th Q. Call him lucky, but he got in done. So will Cam with time, but we are in the playoffs thia year with Jake.

Have to disagree. With no running game and an o-line playing like crap? We would have been seeing a lot of bad Jake. Like maybe 25 interceptions and a half dozen sack/fumbles is what I would envision.

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I would take 2003-07 Jake over rookie and soph Cam in the 4th Q. Call him lucky, but he got in done. So will Cam with time, but we are in the playoffs thia year with Jake.

clutch play also has a lot to do with being put in great position to be clutch and help...

A lot of games Cam winning opportunities have been pooty scenarios.

Plus Delhomme couldn't even get to the 4th this year with as much on his shoulders as Cam has

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still think Marino had the better 2 first seasons overall, even if purely based on stats one can make an argument for Cam... there is more to the game than just stats. That's not to say that Cam hasn't had one of the best first two seasons ever, he has - but I don't think his two seasons are as good as those Marino had.

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Have to disagree. With no running game and an o-line playing like crap? We would have been seeing a lot of bad Jake. Like maybe 25 interceptions and a half dozen sack/fumbles is what I would envision.

Jake had an old Stephen Davis and Deshaun "my acl hurts" foster. The running game from those days was so overrated. The line...well...I wont argue that..

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Any Jake Delhomme is a better qb when planets align and its a home game played on an even numberd day of the month is laughable. Cam is better and more talented than any QB we have ever had and its not close.

The fact we have pretty much traded punches with the best teams in the NFL each week speaks voulmes on this and Delhomme would have imploded with his bowl cut of Cajun anger...and Im a Delhomme fan and my original Huddle name was Jambalayah!

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