Superbowl HCs (first 2 yrs)

[teeray]

btw...how long did it take for rome to get built?

500 years?

sorry, but that's too long.

I don't know how long it took to build Rome, but I imagine Rivera will have to build it in 8 games.

[Darknight]

Yep, I didn't think it was that tough to get the point of it

lol...we're on the huddle dude...unfortunately you have to spell it out for some folks

[CRA]

ok...so when you do draw the line?

3 years? 4 years? 5?

at what point do you get the idea that this coach won't be able to put together a winning season or get you in the playoffs?

3. Playoffs. Or he is gone. Winning record isn't enough.

Rivera got his QB year 1 and it is a talented one so 3 is the window for me. Even if Cam goes down he should make sure the new GM ditches Clausen and they find him a real young QB to add

[Kevin Greene]

Oh, doom and gloom....Rivera hasn't made us a Superbowl contender in 2 seasons so he is now poo. Lets look at what the few winners did as they started growing as HCs (record after their first 2 yrs as HC)

A look at the last 15 rings handed out. In the last 15 years only 11 HCs can claim they are Superbowl winners.

2011 - Coughlin - 13-19

2010 - McCarthy - 21-11 (team was 12-20 the 2 years prior)

2009 - Payton - 17-15 (team was 11-21 the two years prior)

2008 - Tomlin- 22-10 Superbowl (team was 19-13 the 2 years prior)

2007 - Coughlin - 13-19

2006 - Dungy -16-16

2005 - Cowher - 18-12 (team was 16-16 2 years prior)

2004 - Belichick 13-19

2003 - Belichick - 13-19

2002 - Gruden- 16-16

2001 - Belichick - 13-19

2000- Billick - 20-12 - Superbowl (team was 12-19 two years prior)

1999- Vermiel - 9-19

1998 - Shannahan - 8-12 (fired)

1997 - Shanahan - 8-12 (fired)

Out of the last 11 Superbowl winning HCs (last 15 seasons) only 5 won more games than they lost 2 years in to their head coaching careers during the regular season.

Now Ron.

13-19 (team was 10-22 the two years prior).

All I am saying is Rome wasn't built in a day. We don't fully know Ron's big picture potential. He deserves one more year to show his development. Sure, there are exceptions....sometimes a coach like Brian Billick will take over a team that was losing and wins Superbowl in two years. But Brian Billick isn't a reason to fire Rivera. Only other coach to win it in 2 years in recent history was a essentially a turn key operation in Mike Tomlin.

Now, can someone please make a Ron Rivera I Got This gif?

15 years there.

I dont see a bad 2 first years on that list. I see 12 of the 15 Head Coaches on that list had previous Head Coaching experince with other clubs.

Rivera has none of that experience and neither do his OC or DC.

Shows itself badly on Sundays in game management and prep.

[The Huddler]

I got Rivera's back. I havn't quit on him just like the team.

[rayzor]

3. Playoffs. Or he is gone. Winning record isn't enough.

Rivera got his QB year 1 and it is a talented one so 3 is the window for me. Even if Cam goes down he should make sure the new GM ditches Clausen and they find him a real young QB to add

i just wish we would hear that from the top.

i just have my doubts about by his ability to produce a team that can do it consistently. i hope he can because it appears we're stuck with him for a while.

[Montsta]

I love it when people talk about other teams HC's like they watch ten minutes worth of their games all year long.

[NanuqoftheNorth]

There are just too many variables beyond any coach’s control for “statistics in a vacuum” to be a reliable predictor of Ron’s future.

Ron hasn’t clearly defined himself as a Head Coach. He hasn't been a total screw up nor has he demonstrated any consistent signs of brilliance.

It is likely the reason why JR gave Ron another season to prove himself.

One thing we know for sure, no one knows for sure.

Another thing we know for sure, regardless of the outcome, there will still be plenty of “I called it” threads next season.

[chef17]

Unless I'm missing something this is a terrible thread. I haven't seen anyone say Rivera should be fired because we aren't contending for the Superbowl. Plenty of people have said Rivera should be fired for specific actions of HIS. Pointing out records of other coaches does nothing to change that.