Eric Winston wants 3-4 million..

[Jackofalltrades]

I thought we ran a zone blocking scheme? Isn't that why we took Amini last year?

We don't run a zone, Amini was a good OG prospect who excels at run blocking and has a nasty side.

[Marguide]

I am not advocating for or against Winston, but as to our ability to give a FA 3 or 4 million a year, yes, we could do that. You give him some signing bonus, spread it over 3 years, with a minimum salary the first year of the deal. That way, the cap hit is less than the 3 or 4 million, but he still gets a nice chunk of money to sign. It would not be at all hard to fit a contract like he wants under the cap.

The question is, do we want him and does he fit what we do.

[Leeroy Jenkins PhD]

cutting deangelo williams after june 1 would free up cap space.

I was under the assumption that cutting D-Will regardless of June 1st designation would still cost us cap room this year due to excellerated payment of his contract.

We owe him

2013 base 4.75, bonus 3.2

2014 base 5.75, bonus 3.2

2015 base 6.75, bonus 3.2

If we June 1st split payment over 2013 and 2014 we still increase this years cap hit due to needing to pay off the bonus and the fact that his base salary was guaranteed. (I am no expert). Feel free to correct anything I messed up

[Ricky Spanish]

He wants 3-4? give him 2.5 and tell him take it or leave it sah.

 

Gettlemagic.

[Ricky Spanish]

the player most likely to be cut this training camp is hangman due to his cap hit and how it would save the team money if we did. If we did do that, we could probably sign winston.

[X-Clown]

If we were going to the veteran tackle market I would have much rather had Tyson Clabo

[TheRumGone]

we need him more at RT.

 

He would be an upgrade but Bell is serviceable and I think can be above average with better guard play.

 

[SIGCHI222]

I heard Jeff Otah is available.

[Ruff]

I thought we ran a zone blocking scheme? Isn't that why we took Amini last year?

 

No, we run a zone-read running scheme. Completely different from the zone blocking scheme, or the ZBS.

[LinvilleGorge]

He would be an upgrade but Bell is serviceable and I think can be above average with better guard play.

 

Statistically speaking, he's one of the worst starting OTs in the league.  I think "average" would be his ceiling and he'd have to get a lot better to be average.

 

If I knew he could get to average (and maybe the staff feels confident that he can), I wouldn't even be looking at RT.  Average isn't a bad thing.  You can't have a team full of future HOFers.  I'd rather have average at non-vital positions and save the cap space to pay for great at the vital positions.

[Ivan The Awesome]

I heard Jeff Otah is available.

Really, really? Really...

[rayzor]

He would be an upgrade but Bell is serviceable and I think can be above average with better guard play.

 

bell should be a back up.

 

I'd rather we got someone better on the outside. we do better by having the weak spot be between RT and C than we do having the weak spot on the end.

 

if we're going to have someone serviceable on the OL, I'd rather it be at guard than tackle.

 

there's nothing special about bell other than doing ok for being a udfa. nice story, but we need more. 

[Ruff]

If we were going to the veteran tackle market I would have much rather had Tyson Clabo

 

Probably about the same, honestly.

[TheRumGone]

Statistically speaking, he's one of the worst starting OTs in the league.  I think "average" would be his ceiling and he'd have to get a lot better to be average.

 

If I knew he could get to average (and maybe the staff feels confident that he can), I wouldn't even be looking at RT.  Average isn't a bad thing.  You can't have a team full of future HOFers.  I'd rather have average at non-vital positions and save the cap space to pay for great at the vital positions.

 

I honestly don't put much stock into stats. Even with Cam. That's why I think Hixon was a pretty damn good signing. Dude makes plays.

 

But back to Bell. I know what I've seen and I've watched games multiple times.  Bell is average. He needs help on the right side to be that or a little better. He needs consistency with those around him. When he is asked to do too much he falls on his face. He is good for what he is, serviceable.  Plug in a consistent guard next to him and you will see better protection.