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Kiper declares Manziel the best QB in the Draft

Mr. Scot

By Mr. Scot,
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That big nose sycophant idiot is just a bandwagoner. He sells what they ask him to sell. He say poo that doesn't make sense most of the time because it create for a longer conversation. They should put someone in the booth with him to lessen the monotony like Mike&Mike. Those guys have no need to say dumb poo.

 

I honestly think Colin is one of the guys that doesn't sell the ESPN company line, it's why I listen to him. I usually only catch a little of Mike and Mike these days, but I also like those guys.

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I honestly think Colin is one of the guys that doesn't sell the ESPN company line, it's why I listen to him. I usually only catch a little of Mike and Mike these days, but I also like those guys.

He gets on and off band wagons like crazy. One minute he's talking how he doesn't like dual threat QBs, the next minute he's hyping them when they're winning. Like it or not, his show is a business and meant to appeal for a wide audience. I'm not included in that audience. Right now he can't shut up about Luck so I refuse to watch his show.

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Personally, I don't think any of the QB's should be taking in the top half of the first round, but everyone always reaches for the QB's.

 

If I were Cleveland, I'd take Watkins at 4 and pick a QB with my second first rounder.  Bortles might be there.

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My personal opinion:

 

 

Manziel is being over-hyped by the media. Manziel is a dual threat, however I'm not sure his arm/throwing skills are up to par in the NFL. He plays backyard football, and I’m not sure that translates to the NFL very well. He improvises incredibly well at times, but he also did it in situations where it was completely unnecessary. I think that people are being enticed by the idea of having a Cam Newton, or Russell Wilson, or RG3, but I don't think Manziel is cerebral as Wilson, Physically gifted as Cam, or as good of an athlete as RG3. To me, he is the poor man's mobile QB: he really reminds me of Mike Vick. 

 

 

He is used to running around in the backfield like a chicken with his head cut off, and that flies fine in college, look at what The Golden Calf of Bristol was able to accomplish, but it does not translate to the pros well. I have not seen him read a defense, go through a progression without scrambling, or any of that. He’s fun as hell to watch, but just doesn’t seem disciplined in his game. I think he relies too heavily on his evasiveness in the pocket and does not stand tall and deliver throws when he needs to: AKA The Golden Calf of Bristol. If he feels pressure, he will try and bail, and the athletes in the NFL are far better than the Athletes even in the SEC. They will run him down, and they will hurt him, much again, like Vick.

 

 

I’m not rooting against the kid, I really just don’t see it ending that well. 

 

 

I just see more of this:

 

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and less of this:

 

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I had a long post typed up but I acidentally clicked a bookmark and lsot all of it lol.

 

To sumamrize: Too many stupid throws, needs to learn how to stay behind the o-lne, needs to "play QB and not magician.", learn how to read defenses, needs to go through his reads better. Could be like a Farve/Steve Young combo, could be out f the leauge in 3-4 years.

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I love the passion that exists for football, the draft, and Mel Kiper....

 

We all need to remember that he's on ESPN because he drives viewers and web hits.  I mean, the hair alone...

 

Manziel is interesting, and he might have a really high ceiling.  To me he has a large "bust-side" to go with the upside.  What if he forces throws from the pocket, or gets bent in half on one of his "magic" moments?  I'm more preferential on Bridgewater simply because he's shown he can run an NFL style offense.  Of course the same was said about Jimmy Clausen so it kind of remains to be seen how any of these young QBs turn out.

 

I'm really glad we don't have to worry about this!

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