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Do Gettleman and Co Feel the Panthers Overachieved Last year?


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At 12-4 and perhaps on the cusp of a deep Playoff run this year a team might be tempted to keep the nucleus together and maybe even add or keep a couple contracts that might not be too cap friendly in a year or two?

 

But Getts seems rather flip about the roster and is apparently comfortable losing a lot of core players.

 

No hysteria here but is it possible Leadership at BofA feels the Panthers had a lucky streak, overachieved last year and are still in need of major overhauls and another year of contract purging before they expect yearly Post Season runs?

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Or...

They aren't like the chicken littles running rampant on the huddle, twitter, etc & won't run out & sign people just for the sake of signing people.

It's only March 11th. Christ.

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We haven't lost any of the core other than Gross but we can't control retirement. But we did lose some great role players Ginn, Mitchell for example that played large roles. We will feel a lot better once FA is over and we draft some quality starters but damn did our division rivals get better...

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At 12-4 and perhaps on the cusp of a deep Playoff run this year a team might be tempted to keep the nucleus together and maybe even add or keep a couple contracts that might not be too cap friendly in a year or two?

 

But Getts seems rather flip about the roster and is apparently comfortable losing a lot of core players.

 

No hysteria here but is it possible Leadership at BofA feels the Panthers had a lucky streak, overachieved last year and are still in need of major overhauls and another year of contract purging before they expect yearly Post Season runs?

 

Guess that depends on your definition of Core.  

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The nucleus of any winning team has to be DL, OL, and QB. 2 of those are in great shape. No doubt that OL needs tons of work. Gettleman won't overspend on any other positions until that's taken care of, imo. Sign hungry players on short-term deals until the cap improves.

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Gettleman said, "Good Lord willing and the creek don't rise [we will be out of Hurney cap hell] in two years."  I'm of the opinion that this past season and anything we win before then is gravy. We will be a perennial playoff team soon. but I think we take a step back this year. 

 

Gettleman is thinking long term. He's thinking several years ahead and he's considering many things that fans don't, like depth and salary cap ramifications past this upcoming season.

 

 

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We haven't lost any of the core other than Gross but we can't control retirement. But we did lose some great role players Ginn, Mitchell for example that played large roles. We will feel a lot better once FA is over and we draft some quality starters but damn did our division rivals get better...

 

If all the rumors are true, we'll have lost Smitty too... Mitchell was more than a role player in that secondary.. Not in terms of talent, but leadership. He was a core defensive leader. MItchell, Gross, and possibly Smitty are huge losses. 

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