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The QB's always get smoke blown up their buts by ESPN, but these guys as a group are pretty weak.

 

I don't think any of the top 10 teams want a QB, but are scared to wait until they are actually a value.  If they still had to pony up 75 million dollars for the first overall pick, I would be sure the QB's would fall hard, but now it is just a wasted pick and not monsterous cap wasted.

 

If Houston does not pick Bortles number one, then it is going to get interesting.

 

Many, really good position players that could be around 10 years easily, do you just skip them to take a huge chance on a QB that might be 20th on your board?

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Apparently Bortles wowed at his pro day and Bill O'Brien walked away impressed. IMO he may not be as pro-ready as Bridgewater but he has the higher ceiling and can potentially be a team's franchise QB.  I'm in the opposite boat of the OP, I think Bortles goes #1 which will cause a run on QBs at 3, 4, maybe 5. Rumor is if Carr has a good pro day today then he will sneak in the 1st as well either at #8, #20, or maybe even someone trading up for him later in the 1st. This would obviously be best case scenario for us since that leaves a lot of the skill position players available for us so I hope to god I'm right.

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Yeah, this is such a weird QB class. Bortles is the only one who passes all is the eye tests, but is still raw. Bridgewater had it wrapped up, but he's tried his hardest to blow his perception of being the best. Manzel is an enigma. He could be an all pro, or complete bust.

I agree that these guys are going to drop, which could make for an interesting end of round 1...I'd love to trade down and get some more picks!

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Apparently Bortles wowed at his pro day and Bill O'Brien walked away impressed. IMO he may not be as pro-ready as Bridgewater but he has the higher ceiling and can potentially be a team's franchise QB.  I'm in the opposite boat of the OP, I think Bortles goes #1 which will cause a run on QBs at 3, 4, maybe 5. Rumor is if Carr has a good pro day today then he will sneak in the 1st as well either at #8, #20, or maybe even someone trading up for him later in the 1st. This would obviously be best case scenario for us since that leaves a lot of the skill position players available for us so I hope to god I'm right.

 

Someone really needs to explain to me how Bortles, who looked awful in his last game, is going to be the number 1 overall pick? And Carr, who looked worse is a 1st rounder? LOL! 

 

Do scouts and the media actually pay attention to game tape?

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Yeah, this is such a weird QB class. Bortles is the only one who passes all is the eye tests, but is still raw. Bridgewater had it wrapped up, but he's tried his hardest to blow his perception of being the best. Manzel is an enigma. He could be an all pro, or complete bust.

I agree that these guys are going to drop, which could make for an interesting end of round 1...I'd love to trade down and get some more picks!

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This is the thing I do not understand. Bridgewater is the only QB that passes the eye test. The only one all year long that looked like an absolute stud in a pro-styled attack.

 

He goes against Miami and destroy their defense. His measurables are fine. Generally you see a decline in perception based on a game performance. The Bridgewater perception is the hardest thing to wrap my head around.

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Jaws and McShay said after Teddy's Pro Day that they didn't think it would hurt him at all in the draft, because most of the evaluation would be based on game film and other areas.

 

Chris Weinke has tweaked  his foot work a little and he looked stiff on his Pro-day, and he didn't throw with his gloves on. 

 

In all honesty his pro-day wasn't that bad. Do some reading on it or go watch the youtube video of it. It was simply okay, he had some great throws, and a handful of not so great ones. The reviews of his pro-day from the media are all over the place.

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I think Bortles might go first, but then, as the Pittsburgh guy says, everyone wants to go down in the order.  a lot of talent in the first four rounds and getting more picks would certainly benefit.

 

Hoping a few of the top 5 bypass QB's and then trade back into the first with some team picking......say 28th?  Be great to pick at the top of the second and pick up the top pick in the third on the way.

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/23/steelers-g-m-says-everyone-wants-to-trade-down-in-this-draft/

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Jaws and McShay said after Teddy's Pro Day that they didn't think it would hurt him at all in the draft, because most of the evaluation would be based on game film and other areas.

 

Chris Weinke has tweaked  his foot work a little and he looked stiff on his Pro-day, and he didn't throw with his gloves on. 

 

In all honesty his pro-day wasn't that bad. Do some reading on it or go watch the youtube video of it. It was simply okay, he had some great throws, and a handful of not so great ones. The reviews of his pro-day from the media are all over the place.

 

I am also betting that Bridgewater's pro day does not hurt his stock status that much. 

 

BUT....if you  hink it "wasn't that bad", you are crazy.  It was god awful and atrocious.  He was missing throws all over the field.  It was a complete disaster.

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