The Kony Ealy Gambit

[bleys]

what if the BPA is a QB?

 

but, since we do know they still value the philosophy of keeping their strengths strong and that DE is a major piece to the overall defensive puzzle is a relevant tie-down to this discussion more so than bringing up QB, RB, or LB as BPA.. lol

 

 

I don't know if people are really saying DE is a smarter move if WR or OT are available, but it certainly doesn't make it a ridiculous move like drafting a QB just because he's BPA...

 

 

 

Also, none of this discussion hangs on the fact that we are making this decision on draft day.  It's just speculation on what ifs..  It's not that crazy to say the only point being raised that if WR and OT aren't there, it's wouldn't be a complete shocker to see a DE if there is a playmaker available.

[BlackCnqstdr]

what if he feels that way about guys in the second or third or fourth rounds?

 

do we continue to sit and load up at DE, DT, and LB because those were the best players available while we just sit on our asses and hope that the table scraps we pick up in FA or that are sitting on our roster might not suck?

 

at some point you are going to have to take serious measures to fill serious needs and that might involve conceding a little on your BPA philosophy.

 

i'm saying he should fill out the roster with the best available players. then start building out from there. if the best available players to fill out your roster is in the draft, then you take them.

 

Yes you make concessions in later rounds where all the prospects are flawed, you don't make those concessions in the first round when you have a chance to get a difference maker.  If you think Jordan Matthews will be available in the second round you don't take him in the first just because.  We have current needs at CB, S, OT, WR, possibly G, and RB and likely near future needs at DE and OLB there's no need to lock into one position in the first round if the talent isn't there.  

 

Just for the sake of argument if Bridgewater, Bortles and Manziel are all gone in the first 7 picks (they're the only QBs ranked in the scout's inc. top 32) do you think the Vikings should draft a QB at 8?  It's by far their biggest need.

[panthers55]

what if the BPA is a QB?

If a top 10 QB falls to 28, and he is your best player by far, then yep you jump on him.  Once a team gets their guy injured, they will gladly spend the picks and money for him. Or you keep him in the event something happens to Cam.

[BlackCnqstdr]

what if the BPA is a QB?

 

 

If that was going to be a need in the near future then you draft a QB like the Packers did with Aaron Rodgers.

[rayzor]

knowing their philosophy is to keep strengths strong and that DE is a major piece to the overall defensive puzzle is a relevant tie-down to this discussion than bringing up QB, RB, or LB.. lol

 

 

I don't know if people are really saying DE is a smarter move if WR or OT are available, but it certainly doesn't make it a ridiculous move like drafting a QB just because he's BPA...

 

i was being a bit facetious with that example, but still the line needs to be drawn somewhere.

 

imo, the priority needs to be this year. after this year is set, then start looking forward. when we have a full roster with good players in key areas, then we can play this looking ahead game.

 

i would have been ok with ealy had we let hardy go into FA, but even then i'd be pissed at another hole this year being created when we have so many and such a passive approach to filling those needs.

 

 

[Khaki Lackey]

Like c'mon. I'm all for bpa, but not for qb, de, dt, mlb, or rb

Are you sure you're ALL for BPA?

[JawnyBlaze]

Wouldn't hate it, but there's a large list of guys that might be there at 28 that I'd prefer and I have a hard time believing they'll all be gone: Lewan, Ebron, Matthews, Benjamin, OBJ, Cooks, Gilbert, Dennard to name a few.

[MHS831]

Drafting Ealy saves us about $10 million in cap room if we were to retain both DEs.  If we let one of the DEs walk, DE would be our biggest need.  However, we do not need a DE this year, and the DE draft is better in 2015.  However, rookie DEs are not usually great and a 3 DE rotation would be awesome. 

 

Possible.

[tiger7_88]

 

I don't think we'll be drafting a CB in the 1st 2 rounds no matter the situation and maybe even passed over in the 3rd.  With the way I see their philosophy, even if it came down to DE or CB in the 3rd, I would almost expect DE to get picked..  

 

 

I agree here.

 

After the Cason signing (a player that Rivera is very familiar with) and Melvin White's performance last year, I don't think CB will be the pick in the 1st round (UNLESS Gett is absolutely convinced the top CB available on his board is the best player at that pick... and I just don't anticipate the 1st round falling that way).

[tiger7_88]

what if the BPA is a QB?

 

 

A QB pick would in no way be an advantage for the team.

 

A pick like Ealy, as I've already pointed out, not only gives you a great player but gives you flexibility at a critical position that WILL be in flux post-2014.

 

C'mon, man...

[rayzor]

A QB pick would in no way be an advantage for the team.

 

A pick like Ealy, as I've already pointed out, not only gives you a great player but gives you flexibility at a critical position that WILL be in flux post-2014.

 

C'mon, man...

 

 

i was being a bit facetious with that example, but still the line needs to be drawn somewhere.

 

imo, the priority needs to be this year. after this year is set, then start looking forward. when we have a full roster with good players in key areas, then we can play this looking ahead game.

 

i would have been ok with ealy had we let hardy go into FA, but even then i'd be pissed at another hole this year being created when we have so many and such a passive approach to filling those needs.

[Jangler]

I always thought BPA was BPA on your board, not necessarily BPA overall...

 

 

 

 

 

 

[The Lone Panther]

so then what's the solution at LT? what's the solution at WR?

 

what's worse than not looking ahead is not addressing what you need now.

 

if those positions are in such bad shape, how do we benefit by not addressing them? we are backed into a corner. we are foolish if we act like we aren't.

 

job number one: fill out the roster with good players.

 

Cody Latimer in the 4th, double up on OT's in the 2nd/3rd (Billy Turner/Joel Bitonio) BPA in the first.  

[The Lone Panther]

Drafting Ealy saves us about $10 million in cap room if we were to retain both DEs.  If we let one of the DEs walk, DE would be our biggest need.  However, we do not need a DE this year, and the DE draft is better in 2015.  However, rookie DEs are not usually great and a 3 DE rotation would be awesome. 

 

Possible.

 

Which is why you need to draft them before you need them.  Give them time to develop.