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I don't have a full subscription but from early grades... Based on top performers for the game I see that our best offensive player was Ekwonu at 74.6 and our second best was Moton at 73.1. On defense, our top 2 were Mike Jackson with a whopping 92.6 and second was Wonnum at 78.6 (nice).

. ..and Allen still lost

Last time we were any good I was in 1st grade… I’m a junior in HS now. My ENTIRE LIFE we’ve been horrible

So jealous watching both of these teams offenses.

The best option would be Willis, but at this point he's probably played well enough that he will be an option for the Raiders (if Carroll is still the head coach, I think he would prefer a vet over developing a rookie he does not have time for), Colts, or Steelers to compete as starter. Sign here and he'll have to bank on Bryce starting another season ass, which is definitely possible but not sure thing.

These guys are paid to play 60 minutes, I have never seen a coach do that in the NFL, we’re supposed to keep pounding, as a coach you can’t quit on your team no matter what the odds are.

It’s more so the loss of the TE. James Mitchell is inactive on game days so it only left us with 2 TE’s James Mitchell will obviously play next week so it was JT specifically but more so the fact he is a TE

3 years in and bryce has yet to throw for 3k yards in a season. Cam ward is a rookie who played with garbage around him and has still thrown for over 3k yards.

It's easier to teach Sam Howell how to get rid of the ball than it is to teach Bryce to be an NFL QB.

Jtewart was in no way being an apologist I did my best to summarize a crib notes version of what j stew and the other podcaster were saying in a 38 min podcast his discussion of the defense was full of props for them but I pointed out the same as j stew did in the game thread, the panthers d missed a few critical open field tackles and frankly, they have for the past few years. We can have theories as to why but the fact remains they do …and Horn has had several critical and frankly bone headed mistakes of late, so much so, he is getting picked on it seems he in no way anointed Bryce or Canales I appreciate former players’ inputs as they see the field through a different lens than I do on the small screen…not at the stadium , so I don’t see the field

Sam is a good QB who makes dumb mistakes and gets in his own head. Bryce is a bad QB who makes dumb mistakes and gets in his own head.

Look at this swath of draft slots depending on how next week shakes out.

At least, if they were all Bama fans, I could understand their blind allegiance. But, for the most part, they are actually Panthers fans. Some of whom constantly trashed Cam when he was here. Maybe they just love being wrong...?

The context is that Darnold doesn't constantly need to be clutch because he leads his team to comfortable wins. No need for repeated game winning drives. You can say the same thing for other good qbs.

Sam and Bryce are 1 and 2 in the all powerful GWD stat over the last 2 years. Sam is who Bryce jumped the other week to take first reality is neither one is clutch. Neither one is good. Bad QBs apparently have high odds of getting credited with GWDs it seem if you keep playing them on repeat

Heinicke cooks on this team

Darnold is currently the #1 seed.

Gotta try and get Willis

What does that have to do with Bryce being a far worse QB than all 4? I mean, it's a pretty tight race with Ole' Pickles for worst Panthers starting QB of all time. For a team that has started Brian St Pierre and Taylor Heinicke, that's quite an accomplishment!

Are you OK? After every loss you make some really terrible repetitive threads

Good game being very subjective of course. Still probably won't break 200 yards.

The ones that think that will be quiet until Bryce has a good game

I legit am struggling. Offense is so bad to watch.

13-26 64 yards. 1TD 1 INT. The huddle’s franchise.