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I like early 2025 Mendoza, hoping he continues to play at this level the rest of the season. I am also warming up to Moore. It’s nice to have choices and not just settle. No more franchise killing trade ups, please.

It really does feel like we’re Jets 2.0. They last made the playoffs 15 years ago in 2010 and doesn’t look like they’ll make it this season. Panthers last made it in 2017. So it’s possible, like you say, that we’re only halfway through the suck…

Yes, please. Start him for the rest of the season. If he sucks, draft the next hero. If he shows he can play then you are good to go.

this is the problem. Hes got a starter personality, but a backups talent. Hes not bad, not by a longshot, he could be ok in the NFL, but he's not an NFL starter. On the flipside, having a person with that much media around as your backup creates an environment thats just not great. Honestly its why Kaepernick wasnt in the NFL IMO. I dont think he was bad, but I dont think he was this ELITE player that some thought he was. I always thought he was a 1 read then run QB and if that read wasnt there he fails. Thats not NFL starter Material, but picking him up and having as a backup with the whole media circus around him would make an unstable locker room. Honestly, its kinda the issue with Cam, his personality was gigantic, but once it became apparent he didnt have the starter stuff anymore, taking him as a backup was a risk with WHOEVER would pick him. This would go beyond black QBs just to be honest though (wanted to clarify since the 3 mentioned were black), but The Golden Calf of Bristol was a circus wherever he went. Hell, imagine Aaron Rodgers having to "backup" another QB, it would be a nightmare.

I don't know why anyone would want to add the Sanders family media circus to the clusterfug we already have.

Accurate. No one wants a distraction from the backup QB position, real or perceived. Late stage Cam, The Golden Calf of Bristol, Kaepernick, Shedeur it's all the same reasoning. People just have to create alternate narratives. The reality is they weren't seen as starters and we're seen as guys who would bring more distraction than they were worth.

The real truth in this whole deal is…. You could not take Sanders unless you had absolutely nothing at QB on your roster. Media circus is too bad as a backup. Media could give too much attention and your starter would constantly be looking over his shoulder. Bryce would have pissed his pants on draft weekend if we made that move. Hindsight is if your QB is that fragile, he can’t be your QB anyway and now we have confirmed we have nothing at QB. Let’s give him a shot. Sometimes pressure makes diamonds, other times it makes Bryce’s.

No, this was not the reason. He didn't go where he was mock because one, he wasn't a first round talent no matter how much the media wanted him to be, and two, no one wants a sensationalized celebrity backup QB that brings unneeded media scrutiny to the team. It's the same reason why Cam wasn't a back up from 2022 to now.

I think this season is sunk and it's still the Bryce show until they prove it isn’t. They have shown zero effort in anyone but Bryce unfortunately. We are all going to have to wait this one out. Let's see what the options in the offseason look like. Maybe we get a couple of mercy Dalton games. Maybe we get a couple of sad Hooker games. That seems like the reality of this season.

You want to "save" Shedeur by "rescuing" him from the Browns by bringing him to Carolina? I feel like I've seen this movie before...

This roster is already chock full of Shaduer’s sans family baggage. Then again, he would fit in perfectly.

Steve young??? Holy smokes

thats all Tepper really wants more than anything else is to be is right about the Qb he played a huge role in trading up to #1 overall & selecting in Bryce Young .& he obviously does not care how many seasons he has to waste in an attempt to prove that he was righ.so yes its more about being right than winning with Tepper & that's why I talk so much about his ego when I talk about Tepper however , the problem with the Panthers is much greater than just the Qb.the Panthers currently have assembled once again the least talented roster in the NFL & as a result have way more many issues than just Qb moving forward..just saying

I’d rather keep Bryce than have another clown in our circus. And that’s saying a lot.

All Young needs is 5 all pro receivers, Gronk at tight end, and a few pro bowlers on the o-line. Then, I assure you, he will be as good as Andy Dalton.

I know, we’ve talked about it already, but that was mostly before the start of the season, before Bryce came out and Bryce’d it up. I get it. The NFL as a collective doesn’t like guys like Deion and Shedeur. They don’t like self-assured, confident young… errr… men. And okay, we get it. They sent a message by dropping Shedeur to the 5th. But throughout preseason and training camp, Dillon Gabriel did not look like a backup NFL QB, let alone a starter, and yet, Cleveland kept him above Shedeur on the depth chart. Shedeur outperformed every QB on their roster by almost every measure and still sits 3rd in their depth chart. Then today, they announce they have benched Joe Flacco, will start Gabriel, and leave Shedeur as the 3rd stringer. It isn’t unprecedented. Again, the Cowboys traded for Joe Milton after one season as a late round pick from the previous draft. Considering the incompatibility of the fit for Shedeur and Cleveland and our, what should now be obvious to any and everyone involved, desperate need to add talent at the QB position… why not do both sides a solid?

Young wasn't drafted by Canales. Canales shouldn't be held accountable until he can hire his own DC and draft his own QB.

Rams, chiefs, eagles, bengals, falcons and Dolphins all have qbs eating up a huge amount of the cap. The saints cap situation shouldn’t be compared to anything and requires like differential equations to figure out. it’s dishonest at best to compare them head to head. The panthers currently have what is supposed to be the best advantage in the NFL: a high first round qb on their rookie contract. The panthers have thrown huge money at two guards, reupped moton, have (somehow) spent real actual money on the center position, and were even gonna pay Thielen before his wife put her foot down. To put this another way, what is the defensive equivalent of signing hunt and Lewis? What is the offensive equivalent to letting Shaq, Jackson, Chinn, Luvu walk?

Something has to give on QB pay. 17 of the top 20 and all of the top 11 contracts in the NFL are QB contracts. Damn near every starter in the league that isn't on a rookie deal is making salary cap destroying money. How many of those guys are actually delivering the level of play that warrants that? I would strongly argue that unless you have a legit MVP caliber guy you're better off investing heavily in the rest of the roster and creating a great place for a guy in a rookie contract to thrive but that's the fan perspective that wants to compete for SBs. From the front office/coaching staff standpoint they're trying to keep their jobs so it's safer to pay the hell out of that mid-tier guy than it is to roll the dice on being great. Yeah, that mid-tier guy's contract is probably gonna catch up to you and make life tough in a couple of years but that's a problem to deal with in a couple of years we gotta worry about the now right now. That's the piece that some of these media guys advocating for picking up Bryce's option aren't grappling with. You'd be talking about spending nearly 10% of next year's cap on Bryce Young. Let me say that louder for people in the back... NEARLY 10% OF NEXT YEAR'S CAP ON BRYCE YOUNG. You absolutely cannot do that.

Starting with Rhule we adopted this mindset that we could “coach up” players with superior athletic traits. That mindset has failed us every time.

It’s not just the panthers FO/coaches. Look at people on this board, or almost any of the talking heads. everyone has their different reasons for staying on this sinking ship. Whatever you speculate as the reason at the top of the Panthers organization probably has some truth in it. when the owner picked the qb, and he picked a coach to train the qb, and everyone on the team knows you can’t criticize the qb, here we are.

Yeah I don’t mind supporting your #1 pick so they develop quickly but it’s nuts to have to keep making excuses for him. I don’t think he really even wants to be an NFL QB.

I'm conflicted with him. He's shown way more than Allar/Klubnik/other preseason hyped who've struggled, but he is trending down right now. I still like the tools. A bit Darnold-ish IMO. Mateer & Mendoza may be the only ones who end up declaring with the high ceiling. Sellers and Moore may stay another year.

i promise you can count him out.no other NFL team is going to start Bryce Young

to me, the second half of last season, post-benching. I thought he had turned the corner but it was just because we were out of playoff contention already at that point.