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  2. Probably in the 20th-23rd range in the league. People putting him above that are too kind and the ones saying he's like 35th or 50th are just stupid.
  3. How many QBs have been Player of the Week this season
  4. Stafford Mahomes Mayfield maye Allen Darnold Jackson Herbert Goff Hurts Jones Prescott Love Williams Dart Flacco Mac Jones Rogers Brissett Purdy Stroud About the highest you will find him ranked is around 20th. Bottom third like his stats suggest
  5. I don’t know about that. He had 130 yards in the first half. And I am giving him 4 quarters. It is okay to give him some credit when he doesn’t totally suck. now, is that who he is? History says no. History says he is mostly bad, and unable to sustain a higher level of play when he manages to achieve it.
  6. I figured it out. Those color schemes really need white because they are really more of accent colors. But you can't really wear white pants in hockey.
  7. If I was forced to bet on one of the two out comes, I would chose " We could lose every game".
  8. What games featured a good 60 minutes of Bryce Young? I mean, if Bryce didn't come out after the half vs Atlanta let say because he was too hurt......he probably is benched without that 2nd half in Atlanta.
  9. Love is outperforming Bryce in ever category there is and they aren't even really close.
  10. I would say in a sense he is better because he has extended his good outings to 60 minutes a couple of times. It was a half, or even a quarter most other times. But at the same time he looks like he did in 2023 so much of the time still that it is hard to say he is better from that perspective.
  11. Oh absolutely. If we choose the extend him, it has to be for something more in the $15-$25MM range, and that’s assuming he demonstrates more consistent play. It’d be for compensation greater than the true journeymen of the league but less than the upper half of starters. His current play doesn’t support anything remotely close to what other QBs have gotten on the first extension. I believe the 5th year option would be for a bit more than this range, but that’d maybe be OK since it’d only be a one year commitment. What’s key is that the franchise doesn’t financially strap themselves by overpaying for their QB play. Honestly, if Bryce can be a ln average QB who is clutch on occasion, paying less money for that level of performance and having more resources to build the rest of the roster may not be a terrible place to be. Sort of a “lite” version of the benefit from having your starter on a rookie QB contract.
  12. Disagree on love and caleb being unquestioned. Love is terrible and I am not sure if Caleb is good or not
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  14. When teams don’t shoot themselves in the foot they dominate us. We need to play very well and get turnovers or it will be a blowout. I absolutely can’t trust Bryce to play well for as long as I live.
  15. I’ve never believed in him, to be clear. Was against the trade up on principle and once it was done and a two horse race it was CJ for me. No real competition in my mind. But I wanted nothing to do with that strategy to begin with. I really feel the need for us to be shown one way or the other this year, on what Bryce is or can be. His floor is way too low. His level of play is way too inconsistent and predominantly (taking the entire schedule and results into account) is not acceptable. Just sitting here watching the world go by hoping he gives us some clarity because I am really not enjoying the state of existence we have been mired in. I just really don’t want to consider life with paying him 50 damn million dollars to beat Atlanta and a couple of other bottom feeders.
  16. It is a tough one because there are three versions of Bryce Young and you never know which one you are going to get - Good Bryce, Average Bryce, and Bad Bryce. Stroud and Williams have really struggled as well.
  17. I think the huge deciding factor is going to end up being whether or not we do a 5th year or if we offer an extension, and if we do an extension, what value will that extension carry. 45-50m AAV. I don't see how we can. A lesser value, maybe. It all depends on that number.
  18. If you draft and develop good players you're gonna have to eventually pay them. Not a bad "problem" to have.
  19. Again, Flacco is a better QB today than Bryce Young. Flacco old as dirt has been better each year. And Bryce isn’t “better” this year than other years
  20. This whole thing just illustrates how wildly inconsistent he has been, and highlights the need for some kind of relative certainty as to what his future is likely to look like.
  21. 100% on the same page on context, and whether trading up made sense, and if your were going to, should it have been Bryce. I was a CJ guy heading into the draft, but I didn’t hate the Bryce pick at the time. But we have to make decisions for moving forward based on that context. The trade up and what we have up, regrettable as it is given that context, is a sunk cost. We have to decide whether the chance Bryce can develop further into a functional QB is greater or less than the chance you can find a retread or drafted QB that will perform better than him. I don’t know the answer to that question. It sounds like you do have an answer in mind, and it’s that the chance of Bryce being better than the alternative isn’t likely. Gun to my head, I’d say I probably agree with that take. But I’m not confident in it.
  22. If you win the division you probably have your Bryce answer built in. So no argument with that. You could not win it and still get a positive answer, or a negative one. In the big picture that is the most important thing to me. Talking about a bunch of years not just this one.
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