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Mac didn’t attempt a single pass past 25 yards, and only one pass 20. You guys would just turn on him here immediately if we signed him

Zero coaching experience to NFL head coach? Dumb.

What I mean is that of course you'd be best off building a great offense AND a great defense, but that's almost impossible to pull off in a hard cap league and is definitely impossible to maintain. You're not going to be able to afford to keep everyone even if you're knocking the draft and free agency out of the park and turning them into stars. Then you gotta pay 'em.

We should take a look at David Shaw.

Luke knows what a poo pile Tepper is and has turned this franchise into, he wouldn’t do it.

I missed where I said that we had to have all pros. Not sure we are on the same page. I’ll take the L on that.

His "hail mary" was 7 yards so.... good luck.

And the height difference matters, a lot.

Yeah he has to man up. They aren’t little squirrels he has going against. This thing about speed and deep routes though, with our QB; I don’t think it is necessary because a burner will have to slow up. Not trying to start anything that’s just the way I see it. fact of life I don’t think we have to have Ted Ginn speed to do that. I think it is much closer to a Russell Wilson scenario.

I don't think Mac Jones has a stronger arm, just better footwork.

It’s early don’t worry about that.

I dont see that happening, the throws with the velocity and touch that mac jones had last night and his ability to see over the line is something young has yet to show. even though mac jones was booted from the patriots he still showed more promise and better stats than young has ever done. Mac Jones does have a week arm by nfl standards but young is just another level of not physically gifted. But it could also be that every coach and player young has played with in the nfl are all terrible and they are all holding his greatness back

Legette isn't shifty enough. Just get a hand or body on him and he's all of a sudden a 4.7 guy. Which is fine honeslty. I'd rather see him play like he's 220 pounds than like he's a burner anyway. Gotta be able to out muscle 180 pounds CBs. Just have to.

I do think overall 2011 had more talent but that is mainly due to the non-OL offensive personnel's and the overall depth on D being a little better (not saying much). But it isn't some HUGE gap (outside the elephant in the room lol). This team could turn it around with a few (albeit major) changes and acquisitions.

Now all of a sudden we want to follow the jay-z 7 year plan (joking). I see everyone’s point. I see reasons to move on and reasons to give at least one more year. I would likely prefer a new HC but new isn’t always better. They’ll make their decision and ill follow along like the sad fan i have been all these years.

There's a two year period we are discussing, not one year. You're just (conveniently) picking and choosing the worst players from those two years. The overall roster was far superior. It's not even close. Especially at the (by far) most important position, which is QB.

I wouldn't want to see him on the outside either. He can press safeties from the slot and allow TMac and company to work underneath. Safeties have to back up if a guy is streaking by them - even if Bryce refuses to look their way.

Being the head coach of the team is the only qualification one needs to have this right. The questions is nonsensical. Coaches get their own staff. Yes, he accepted the job, but you're badly glossing over the entire point, which is that the biggest standout losers and failures on the team are guys that were here before he showed up, and as far as we can tell he's not been permitted to change things

We can’t even fail successfully…. [sigh]

Luke could make the player-to-DC jump. Let him get a couple years of success as DC and then the jump to HC is less of an adjustment.

He’s just a radio guy lol.

We are somehow only picking at 8 currently lol.

This reminds me of when Jake was completely falling apart (2009) and we'd see threads about trading for Brady Quinn or Matt Leinart.

Is the rule that to be a difference maker you have to worth two first round picks? In that case we have none other than Bryce Young of course, who we gave that up for, but he makes a difference the wrong direction. Brown makes a big difference up front Horn is an upgrade to most defenses and a fine player. And I think Tetaro is one, in the making. He could be a star if we get someone who can get him the ball.

Defensive guys keep failing even when then do draft talented young QBs. I just don't think most make the best HCs any more. Bowels seems to be bucking thst trend while becoming more than just a DC as a HC. Dude keeps finding OCs 3 years in a row while other guys ran a top 5 D can't keep their offenses running well after 1 year.