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I know you like to be the sarcastic Bryce basher around here, but their trend lines crossed this year. Now it's just about what happens from here.

No. When did I claim he did? I'll take the data of three seasons worth of games over two postseason games. I think, in fact, two random bad games in an otherwise fantastic start to a career is about the definition of an aberration in the context of football. By your logic Peyton Manning should have been shipped off back in 04 when he threw 4 picks against the Pats. There are countless other examples, of course, I could point to, but you (probably) get the point.

Yeah maybe if we got to play the Falcons 10 times.

I honestly love it. I wish there was more bulletin board material like this. League has gotten too sterilized in a lot of ways.

A few more years and their trend line will finally cross

I totally get it and not trying to go full homer here, but Seattle had the worst preseason (August 2025) odds to win the NFCW and O/U of 8.5 wins. This franchise should not be confused with Seattle, but too early to shut down a projected + 2 win total knowing the roster is still being improved, IMO.

He injured his hand against Pittsburgh? Because he tried hard to lose them that game too. It wasn't an aberration. He was insanely bad the entire postseason.

I forgot about that little tidbit. He is very clearly not that. Lamar has never choked anywhere near as bad as CJ did over a two game span.

Quite a turn of events from when he named himself the third best QB in the league after his rookie season (behind Mahomes and Lamar).

I agree with everything else but his first pass is the game was pa rollout to the flag, wide open pitch and catch, and he threw it behind the receiver and low.

Came here to say this…he is a dog too and athletic. He looks really good

One QB is getting better every year while one is getting worse every year. It's not crazy logic, it's just logic

Other than the wasted pick on Allar, id love this.

Hos production by snap count and targets isn't bad. They must REALLY be tired of dealing with his knuckleheaded behavior which is saying something for an organization that put up with Stephon Diggs for four years.

Bryce had his best season this year and it wasn't even remotely as good as Stroud's "worst" (2024, which was still a damn good season). His passer rating and efficiency were actually up this year compared to last. His yards and TDs would likely have been higher as well, were it not for missing three games due to injury. So he's actually improved his overall body of work. I don't see any trend downward whatsoever. I agree the playoff game was a meltdown, but I think that had much more to do with missing weapons and what appeared to be an injured hand. After his hand hit the center's helmet his accuracy clearly suffered. It was a terrible game, but I don't foresee it being as career-altering. In regard to the topic of the thread, I'd trade 5 Bryce Youngs for one CJ Stroud in an instant and never look back.

Im filthy with the Ikey injury if hes healthy apart from TE,C and a speedster we could have focused almost everything on defense

Tarheels and Hornets both on TV tonight. So when I get bored of watching one coach fug it up, I can switch over to watch the other coach fug it up. Going to start drinking now.

He was a healthy scratch for like 1/4 of the season. Says a lot considering how sorry that receiving room is up there.

Yeah, your team had five turnovers (Allen had four) and yet you still went to OT and were a very controversial call away from winning. I just don't see how you up and fire your coach over that. Just seems like a very knee jerk response to an unfortunate outcome that really didn't have anything to do with coaching decisions.

Bryces best year is CJs worst with a better offense around him. Thats some crazy logic to say its a step down.

I hope Stefanksi flames out in ATL but Baker hasn't changed one bit. Busy trying to settle scores through the media instead of focusing on his craft and not returning to the form that got him jettisoned from Cleveland in the first place. I love that the Bucs are getting to see the real him.

Or how about Kirk who had an incredible 250 yards receiving this year. XL finished season with more yards than Kirk.

I think it’s pretty clear he is. He cut off beane when he was going to answer the question about Keon to blame McDermott and the coaching staff for picking him. And then said one of the reasons he fired McDermott was after seeing Josh Allen crying in the locker room after the game. Everyone talks about Buffalo being an attractive job because of Allen, but I’d have to reconsider after hearing the owner pretty much telling you that’s he acting quickly on emotions and is giving all credit for success to the GM instead of the coach who helped guide them to the playoffs for the first time in 17 years (with Tyrod Taylor at QB) and 7 out of the next 8 years. Just a really bad look all around.

I suspect the Vegas win total line will be around 7.5

I feel ya. The only thing I really disagree with is the catch. I have listened to plenty of analysis, have seen stills and of course video. I will never believe it was a catch, as Cooks did not secure the ball,which allowed the receivers hands in there and snatch the ball away. That wasn't a running situation. Knee down on the ground and ball in hands does not count. The process of the catch was not over. As far as OT, it is what it is. That's why it's a team sport. The D let him down in 13 seconds.