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when you're like 120 lbs overweight that tends to happen

Dude Tepper hasn’t been around like the last two years. You’re brining up stuff from half a decade ago lol New owner hires two guys that sound like they know what they are doing (Rhule/Fitterer) they do significant damage to the team and he’s trusting real football guys (Morgan/Tillis) to fix it, and you expect it to be done already.

Def not rigged. I would agree that the quality of the games in general has DRASTICALLY gone down in recent years, though. And a lot of that has to do with the refs.

Which was also untrue.

Tepper will always be the root of the problem. That poo hasn't changed at all, nor do I expect it to. I remember when delusional Redskins fans thought that Snyder had gotten better when he stepped away and let the football people do their thing. Then he came back and got involved directly again because it "wasn't fun." Ah...good ol David Snyder.

Nobody thought that. They thought he did good with struggling QBs. This is a tall order

Haven't read thread yet ... but I'M so tired of reading people say the game is rigged or the refs are in on it ... when we lose. But never when we win lol.

Well, people credit(ridiculously) that Baker's time here spurred some sort of career turnaround(also ludicrous). Maybe we put Bryce as scout team DE for the remainder of the season and see what happens?

watch them in slow mo bryce was still on his feet when saints defender makes first contact, shough had his but on the ground when panthers defender launched himself and made contact directly to shoughs head. I have seen byoungs hit called and not called several times. Never seen the shough hit not called. I dont understand why defenders essentially aim for the ground on these qbs sliding just run through the tackle and this is not an issue. But scoring 17 points as an O against the saints was pitiful.

Because he's won 7 games with Bryce at the helm

I think the thing that stands out the most is that people keep having to find other people's mistakes to justify why Bryce Young doesn't win or play well. Because other strating QB's in the NFL have ample adversity and somehow manage to overcome it on not such a rare basis. Untimely penalties, drops, defensive lapses, bad calls, etc. Also, they get heat for consistently failing to win, even with this situations. But it's always not Bryce's fault for even being in those bad situations in the first place. Boy it's funny how that works out....

He’s clearly got a lower back problem and a bad hip And I’m glad

Why would anyone think Canales was some offensive mastermind?

I am going to go out on a limb and say that this team will Never win a playoff game with BY as the quarterback.

Just a reminder of an important quote from our fearless leader: “This league is set to be an 8-8 league,” Tepper said in the Amazon series covering the Panthers. “Everything is fair in this league. So if you have better coaches, better GM’s, some advantages with facilities, advantages with the training, management process, whatever those, whatever it is, you know, analytics, whatever that is to give you an edge, that’s what you need. And you need a good quarterback.” Yet here we are, years later acting like it’s a gift from the heavens to even sniff 8 wins. 43 wins, 87 losses .307 winning percentage. 0 playoff appearances, 3 GM’s, 6 head coaches. All this to say we had a golden opportunity that literally fell into our lap to finally win the division and we couldn’t even beat the Saints who have 4 wins total, 2 from sweeping us. This franchise will continue to be pathetic while he owns the team. Even with our “improved season” this is the results we get from our offensive minded head coach finishing up year 2:

I don't know that it really matters THAT much about the timeline. I think we may have already cemented ourselves as a bottom 2-3 spot for head coaching candidates, if not securely last. But that logic can be applied across the board to all these moves. We aren't very likely to improve at QB if we get rid of Bryce. I mean....these guys all picked Bryce. How the hell would they know what a good NFL QB looks like? As for defensive coordinator, who in their right mind would come to work under Dave Canales and in this situation? It is likely to be someone Dave knows personally and probably making way too big of a leap up the ranks to take a job they aren't qualified for.

I watch them all the time you cannot blame anyone who gets excited over beating the cowboys. Packers. Rams everyone who follows this team should be excited over those and why bother if you arent They are rightfully critical of young and canales and evero Frankly, they do not root for them to fail like some on here

if the kicker misses it we would be bitching why we gave the saints the ball at midfield in a one possession game instead of trying to convert a 4th and inches. are the odds better of getting an inch or a rookie kicker hitting a 52 yard field goal? he's 2 of 4 btw this year over 50 yards if we convert worst case we still end up with 3 but milk another 3 minutes off the clock, OR we end up with 7 and put the game pretty much out of reach. at the end of the day there's no excuse for the swiss cheese defense. the saints marched right down the field and we got a lucky stop on 4th down after they negated their field goal and the following drive they scored going down the field with about 5 chunk plays. a 3 and 10 team without kamara and starting a 2nd round rookie with 1 legit receiver and we let them look like the 2007 Pats in the 4th quarter. Blame Evero

Too easy. Addition by subtraction. Saints found one in the 2nd last year lol

With goalie “cross our fingers” being solved, they can focus on that 2C or 1C that is sorely missed.

Do you even think for yourself anymore?

Sanders went out on a route and Rico stayed for a second before sneaking out to the flat. Zero help. Look at Coker crossing the middle. Bryce is reading the two guys at the top of the screen and I guess they weren't open. Obviously he didn't see Coker or Rico. Not sure if Sanders was open. Inside of two minutes it's first read and if not there, take the outlet.

Yeah. Soccer players are the softest athletes on earth. Hockey players play with broken clavicles. While I understand his analogy, soccer players are babies.

Firing Canales now makes it even more unlikley to get an improvement than it was before him. IMO.

I considered it. I left that as a "write in."