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See.... I've been quite adamant from the start that I thought Donovan would end up with the job and if he says no, it goes to UNC's tier 2 list that starts with Byington

Yea I did and I quoted it above. Lmfao

On these today....

What a come back from Bayern!! Parlay still alive but Real has some work to do. Need 2 goals in the last 30 after Bayern got 3 in the last 10

To rub salt in the wound when you look back to what were considered some of the most underwhelming resulting seasons in Panthers history before the Tepper's came along we still managed a top 20 passing offense with journeyman Matt Moore and the ghost of Jake Delhomme in 2009. And Steve Smith was 44th in the league in YAC so it was not a chunk play pass offense. Obviously the run game was dominant with Jonathan Stewart and Deangelo Wiliams but comparatively the run game in 2009 only amassed 500 more rushing yards than the 2025 Panthers in a down year for Chuba Hubbard. It shows just how comically desperate we have become to adjust standards that actually used to mean something.

I wouldn't have picked up the option, to me he's that replaceable. I think the Panthers are taking a more cautious strategy, not ready to move on yet but also holding off on committing to him until the last possible time. Basically, he's a competent NFL QB. He's bottom third in the league. That's actually not a terrible thing. You can win some with a bottom third QB. If over time he takes a few steps forward he might be a median level QB. I think those are the kinds of steps that Canales is talking about. If you've truly got a median level QB, it's probably worth keeping him as opposed to roll on the dice in the draft. But just to be super clear, I don't think he is capable of taking those steps, and I think we should and will move on after the season

Unfortunately this is more wishful thinking than anything. The problem is the bar is so low for what they consider success for Bryce Young. I mean we have yet to field even a top 25 passing offense with Bryce Young heading into his fourth season and it's basically considered a when not if we begin contract extension talks with him.

Thats not what I'm saying at all. OT will be overdraft just because of position, I wouldnt want to reach on a guy just cause he is an OT. Is the 4th best OT better than the second CB or DT? We have a lot of holes on this team and areas where we can upgrade starters

Walter did Skyler wrong. I get it, Walt was looking out for his family. However, selling blue meth was not the answer. Skyler was a little too dramatic if you ask me.

Everyone in the draft is a gamble. They do not come with guarantees ro be anything other than what they were when you drafted them. Some will start due to necessity and others because they have terrible coaches trying to save their jobs. Truthfully, only 1 or 2 should or could play day 1. So if you think a first round selection means anything you are overestimating these guys or your expectations are way too high.

I personally wouldn't mind OT as long as he's a true starter and not a reach

Who says whomever they draft doesn't have a chance to start? You guys are looking at this completely wrong.

I mean yea but Luke did start his rookie season, just at olb

I guess it's good thing Marty didn't think that way when he drafted Luke while he had Beason already as the starter.

Tyson is sooooo good but I just don’t know if he can hold up in the NFL. We already have a guy always hurt in Coker, I’d rather use our 1st on defense

He’s a pro coach, of course he isn’t sold on Bryce. I’d be worried if he was

If he is not starting, how is saying "not going to play" wishful thinking when you support your premise with a hypothetical situation about your future vision of a probable injury? Isn't that "wishful thinking?" Now, you could say the same about Derrick Brown, bryce Young, TMac, or either CB--all critically important positions. WHy not draft depth at those positions with the 19th pick? A CB, WR, or DT is more likely to contribute that a reserve OT. I enjoy discussions, but I can't argue with hypothetical hypocrisy-we will just wait and see.

we have a pretty league average set of skill players. Using 19 to try and create a true strength out of a neutral at a premium position isn’t a bad idea.

I like Coogan, Zhun, Parker, Gulbin, and Barton as Center prospects because of their versatility. Aside from center, we need to improve our guard depth. Zavala is not it. I'd love to see Gennings Dunker give center a shot.

Well, it is his to lose. They are on a path to pay him unless he really fugs up this year. Maybe we can get ourselves into a Coker/XL situation somehow, Bryce being XL in this scenario. Find ourselves a Coker.

For sure.

Islander played Friday night at home, losing to Philadelphia with Sorokin in net. Canes will likely see Rittich (14-9-3) tonight. TB is home against Boston and Buffalo is on the road in Washington. A little help and 2 points tonite will keep the 2 point lead over both in the East, maybe even build on it.

Same for you Bryce Truthers. Bryce is not a good QB. The coaches know this. But if they don’t and they strap this team with a QB like Bruce for 4 more year they need to be fired.

Does Coker not want to play football? He has 0 leverage and has to sign the deal if he wants to play. Imo we should offer him better than we are required to keep him happy. His second contract will still be a huge steal

Hadn't really thought about WR as an option, but with Legette being a bust and Coker a RFA in 2027 I can see the thinking behind it if it is BPA. We could be in a situation where T-Mac is the only WR of note on the roster this time next year.