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The Bills became the first team in history to win a playoff game in six straight years without ever reaching a Super Bowl, which ultimately cost him his job. I don't want that kind of juju.

I don't necessarily argue any of that. I brought him up, as well as Peterson and Alexander as non-qbs that won MVP most recently. The only 1 I am certain without looking up is Alexander, but I am pretty sure LT won, and mostly sure Peterson did as well. Peterson's downfall and last few years give me a bit of pause, but I think he won the award.

If we had a half decent kicker that wouldn't have mattered

https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/panthers/2026/01/23/panthers-xavier-legette-trade-candidate-offseason/88321762007/

Barnwell writes:

I think folks that think he would be an immense asset, particularly for Young, is how skilled he has been at making receptions at or near the LOS, and then turning those into gains. It does stand to reason that a qb that throws frequently in that area would benefit from a CMC-type of receiver.

Daboll is an inansely bad HC. One of the worst in recent memory.

Without any commentary, let's see what we got out of trading McCaffrey: 2023 2nd Round Included in the massive trade with the Chicago Bears to move up to the No. 1 overall spot in 2023. - Used to draft Bryce Young 2023 3rd Round Traded to the Pittsburgh Steelers (along with the 2023 4th-round pick below) to move up to No. 80. - Used to draft DJ Johnson (LB/EDGE) 2023 4th Round Traded to the Pittsburgh Steelers to facilitate the move up for DJ Johnson.(Pick used by PIT for Nick Herbig) 2024 5th Round Used by the Panthers at No. 164 overall. - Used to draft Chau Smith-Wade (CB) DJ Johnson is no longer on the team, so basically the 3rd and 4th round picks were sent away. Smith-Wade plays only half the team's defensive snaps.

JNO pretty much shut down half the field that year. He would have had much more ints and PBUs if QBs didn't look the other way. QB passer rating really shows what happened

Have to remember Daboll is credited with developing Josh Allen into what he is today as the Bills OC. It's how he got the Giants job as they saw Daniel Jones as a Josh Allen in the making. Daboll took them to the playoffs in his first year in New York, then Jones couldn't stay healthy. Hard to walk away from or not have a soft spot in your heart for people who were part of you coming up. Daboll would be a good football hire. Rivers would be a great PR hire, and because Josh Allen can put the cape on when he wants, Rivers could fake his way to 12 wins with the right assistants around him.

People apparently forgot that offseason. Stafford and wife met with McVay in Mexico the offseason he moved. McVay convinced him to leave. Stafford went to the Lions and had a very emotional meeting in which he said he wanted to leave. They obliged based on his time there and the compensation offered(which included Goff). It was a very amicable split. People in Detroit still revere him to this day. He has been open about his affinity for them, as well.

going from High school to the pros would be incredibly easy

Smitty was a 3rd rounder. I’m not really saying draft one high at all, 3rd being higher than I have in mind for this year. I am completely with the people that say ‘enough’ high picks on “weapons for Bryce”. Enough of that. Don’t want a weapon drafted early, Yet Again. For that matter I wish we weren’t forced to address LOT because I want linebackers and big guys. And OL depth in the mid to late rounds. Maybe some late insurance at RB. A QB if the right one is begging for us to snap him up. But looking at the WR room and believing Moore is sort of redundant or maybe even not a great fit, and then just recalling the numerous calls for a burner, I was only really saying what I think would be the best type of addition.

I mean Rivers with no qualifications is probably better than the insane disaster that is Brian Daboll. Everything about their coaching search validates what Sabres fans have said about Pagula. That guy is an complete idiot.

If the Bills are even remotely considering Rivers everyone in that front office needs a welfare check.

With Josh Allen being part of the interview process, I actually think this has legs. Daboll or promoting Joe Brady would be the smart play here. But in a small market like Buffalo, hiring Rivers makes you national sports news for the entire offseason, and that's almost as important as winning.

I don't think he had a no trade clause, but very possible the Lions gave him the option of selecting the destination if all offers were equal due to his service with that organization. Still fun / sad to think what could've been had he come here like rumors had it back then.

He would only basically be a flat $24 mil to us until 2029. It's the hit to them that would be an issue.

I think Stafford chose to go to the Rams

In a perfect world I agree. But a Moose level reunion is not realistic in this era of the league with how crazy contracts are now. By comparison his contract with the Bears before he came back to us worth $30 million with only $12 million guaranteed. Compare that to DJ Moore at $110 million with $82.6 million guaranteed and have yourself a nice chuckle.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/47706170/bills-interviewing-philip-rivers-coaching-job-sources-say Shades of Jeff Saturday here. WTF is this???

especially since that was the only game we lost in the reg season that year

I meant to post that in the other thread about DJ Moore I just got the two mixed up in my tabs. I do agree we could use some speed. Unfortunately I think we are at a point where we have got to spread our resources around and with what we have invested in the OL already and two firsts in WR and the investments in the backfield it just reaches a point where you have to say alright if your QB and offensive minded head coach can't work with the offensive group as is they'll never succeed.

Damn, somehow this ended up in the wrong thread. Sorry.

I'd take him back if the Bears want to eat some of that salary.