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We gotta be realistic. One, we're probably not spending big money at backup QB. Two, someone like Willis who is likely looking for at least an opportunity for a legit QB competition probably won't be coming here. So what are we left with? Given the choices, Howell checks a lot of boxes.

and yet in his only year starting is still comparable if not better than bryces best year. let that marinate a bit

He has potential. His year in Washington without a running game and under pressure almost every play he still managed to put up numbers. I'm not saying start him, but as a QB2 with potential, yeah, I like it for the right price. I hold no illusions that he's a franchise QB, but is he better than Dalton with age on his side and opportunity to get better? Yes. It's time to start throwing some darts. And let's be real. If Bryce wasn't a Panther, no one on this board would be screaming to trade for him if he was available.

More physical talent than Bruce and a lot cheaper. Right now I'm desperate to avoid a long-term extension for Bryce.

UNC homers.

We have to go heavy defense and throw some OL in the mix at some point.

My dream FA splash signing. TMac, Coker, and Pitts would be a legit scary skill group for Bryce or whoever the next guy is. If Brooks comes back healthy to pair with Chubba, sheesh

I loved Durant as a college player but he never had NFL ability (same story with Marquise Williams) I was surprised Yates carved put a decent little backup career for himself too. I didn't think he'd get more than a cup of coffee in the NFL.

Why is Sam Howell so loved on this board? dude is absolute cheeks

Sam Howell, Mitch Trubisky, Darian Durant, Matt Baker, T.J. Yates, there's surely a legend hidden in there somewhere.

Hey man baby steps. You aren't wrong, but 2022 Tepper and Fitt would have already signed him to a 3 year extension at 50M per. There aren't really any immediate upgrade options available this year in FA or where we will be drafting so I get the approach. I am nowhere near convinced Bryce is our long term guy yet, but also have to be realistic that we have a team to field next year. Regardless, I like our approach of building an actual team this time and if in 27 or 28 we decide we need a new guy, there's an actual NFL roster around him.

Happy for Sam. His request for music was always Blink 182. Always nice. I remember a private party with all the players at Shaq's house, all the guys liked him too, always having fun with everyone. Cool dude. SF opened his eyes to "doing it right" and then he showed it in Minnesota and now Seattle. Watch more vets under the right leadership and surroundings excel. Sometimes players need a few years in the right environment to succeed.

A guy that can move around? With a live NFL arm? Who won't cost a lot? I mean... I know a guy

And for the mess that is "nine"

I don't have any disdain for Sam like I do Baker. Fatt Fhule was never going to be successful regardless of quarterback. Hoping the Seahawks win it.

How they treated the Baker/Sam thing was a joke. He was used as a DE on the PS. He may not have been any good here had he really been given a chance to succeed, but that whole situation was a clusterfug. I don't blame him for wanting out of this Tepper led poo show.

Might be the only terms on which both sides could agree. Morgan probably wanted 3 years and Mays' agent probably pushed him for a prove-it deal. Immediately leaking the desire to test the market only furthers this notion.

I'm sure someone can look it up on this board, but back when we jettisoned Darnold, I'd tried to defend him saying that he was still a young QB with a high ceiling, he was just surrounded here with bad coaching and a poorly built team. I said he'd see a Super Bowl before we did. And people just laughed. Same folks who said Baker Mayfield sucked and was a washout. Same folks who live to slam Bryce. (And honestly, my decision on Bryce is still hanging out there, undecided, swaying from yes to no). I'm not saying I know a damned thing about raising up a QB, but I know that I'm not as clueless as some others. Some of these kids that come out as top draft picks get thrown into the fire on a badly built team, a desperate lower tier HC, OCs and QB coaches that are struggling to move up the ladder and an injured, mad fanbase that wants immediate results or it's to the chopping block with some kid that just had the temerity to do well in college football and then come to the podium when their name was called.

I like Pat Coogan. Was a fan when he was at ND.

I wouldn't mind taking a shot at Kyle Pitts.

Baker was good in the past he was just a self admitted douche Darnold always had the skills he was just thrust into the starting role at age 20. Bryce doesnt have the physical skill set of either. And if we dont know if he is the dude after year 4 its time to pull the plug, its as simple as that

Ian Thomas looked promising his rookie season, too. At this point I want a FA TE. We have bigger fish to fry in the draft than taking a stab a another project TE, which isn't even a major component in this offense.

Sure, agree. To be fair, none of those guys have been in the league as long as Sam or Baker. But I also don't expect any of them to develop into good starters in the future like Sam and Baker did. There are absolutely more QBs that have failed and been discarded than examples like Sam. My only point is that each player is unique and can develop at their own pace. Maybe it's too slow for the team. Maybe they don't put in the work, etc. But not being a star by year 4 isn't a death sentence.

JT Sanders has been such a disappointment. I really thought he'd be good after his promising start to the rookie season.