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You can count them on one finger.

the smaller the player, the higher the odds of a hospital ball.

This is a young team that hasn't won anything. That is a hurdle in itself. But beyond that you need guys who can rally around each other. You need competitors who feed off one another. Where is that here? It's plainly obvious this team has no real leader. You can't expect the guys on the defense or your running back to carry the torch. They are complimentary leaders. You still need that guy who is leading you into battle so to speak. The spark. All we have is someone who can apparently wow some middle aged squares at dinner but where is the generational Payton Manningesque field general leadership we were sold on our #1 pick by so many LOUD voices before the draft?

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Everything I have seem with them is about hiding subjective interpretation behind layers of stats to hide what they really are based on. If it was just stats then we could all do what they do based off of box scores stats and such. That's their magic in their equation, subjective input delivered as fact.

I have a bad feeling about this. And I'm not sure for who. Its the same feeling I had after the Atlanta win.

I'd trade Legette for a bag of soggy pizza rolls at this point.

A lot of our problems (other than Bryce) is that nobody on our team has really won at a consistent level before. Like, name one other than Sam Martin that was a consistent starter for a winning team. Bobby Brown (maybe) but he doesn’t even start for us, Robert Hunt? Like one year with Miami when they were decent. Turk Wharton?

McShay says he feels better about Mendoza in the ugly win versus Iowa than when Indiana is blowing out opponents. Iowa dialed up many zero blitzes and got home a few times. One caused his pick where he rushed the pass with a LB barrelling down in his face. To his credit, with the game on the line, Iowa dialed up another zero blitz and Mendoza beat it on a slant route for the winning TD. McShay also likes his toughness as a runner. He's not a gifted runner, but effective enough and doesn't shy away from contact especially when trying to get to the sicks. Tough, accurate and not mentally fragile. Until this dude (if) this guy lays an egg, this is my guy for the draft. He survived a physical Iowa defense on the road whose game plan was to rough him up. After being harassed and pummeled all game, dude marches his team down the field for the game winning TD. It would be a breath of fresh air to have a QB overcome an ugly game to notch a win around here.

you can dive deep enough into analytics where it will lie and you can find whatever you want to find.

Not the best example since that speech didn't do much good.

Not directed at the OP. But I absolutely love seeing the sentiment for Ron changing around here now that people are reminded what an actual incompetent staff looks like.

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Since it’s the Cowboys, I’ll give ‘em a discount and only ask for a 2nd rounder.

Maybe behind closed doors, but speeches and motivation only goes so far. The person/player has to do something with it.

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I never saw it myself. But I'm not around either of them 24/7 so I'm not going to be a reliable witness.

I'm not deeply familiar with their system but it seems to me that they likely treat every play equally. Oh, that was a positive play. Sir, it was more than a run of the mill positive play. It was a jaw dropping game winning TD. You can't treat that play as the equal of a random 2nd down play in the 1st half where you made the wrong read and it resulted in an incomplete pass. Less drastic, there's just a difference in importance to say 2nd and 4 in a game you're up two scores and 3rd and 8 when you're trailing. There has to be something in the formula to account for weighting of plays and it's something that's going to take some trial and error and you're probably never going to stop tweaking with it to fine tune it. I think that's where a lot of the PFF scores feel off. You'll watch a game and a guy will have a handful of very impactful plays but not otherwise particularly stand out and PFF will grade him negatively but did he really have a bad game? He wasn't "bad" otherwise and he made a handful of key plays. I think every football person would grade that overall positively. Same thing on the flipside. A guy was pretty decent overall but had a handful of absolutely terrible reps that led to negative consequences in the game. Despite being overall decent most football people would agree that the bad outweighed the good and that should result in an overall negative grade where it seems like PFF would tend to grade that performance positively. I also wonder if they take into account situational football. Let's say it's that 2nd and 4. Overall the offense has been struggling a bit and we haven't been able to get any chunk plays and the D is really crowding the line. Tremble is open on a drag underneath that would likely move the chains but T-Mac is running a go down the sideline and he's one on one. You take the shot. It falls incomplete. I suspect PFF would grade that negatively where I'd honestly be neutral on it. Yeah, hitting Tremble likely moves the chains but we still have 3rd and 4 coming up with a decent chance to convert (we're pretending we have a real QB here, bear with me LOL). That shot to T-Mac was a good opportunity and it makes the D respect that you can threaten them vertically. I'm okay with it in the context of the game as outlined. I'm just not a big fan of going through a game and grading play by play on a stand alone basis. You have to consider the context of the game.

I get what you're saying but we're in another galaxy beyond inspirational speeches. This is just a snakebit franchise and probably will remain that so long as the Tepper's own the team. Everything they touch turns out bad. And there's no sign of them ceasing their meddling ways.

At this point it's unfortunately more than incompetence it is deliberate negligence. Everything they have done (Staff FO ownership) the last 3 offseasons has been to make things as comfortable as possible for their #1 overall pick. No real competition whatsoever at the most consequential position on the field three consecutive years. I mean that's insane negligence beyond even some of the most poorly run franchises in sports. That's where we're at.

At worst, he'll be great to line up in the slot next to T-Mac and then send him on go-routes as it will keep the safety from helping out against T-Mac

True. He backed it up though and proved he could lead a room full of grown men. I’m not sure Canales has that in him, or Bryce for that matter. You have to be able to motivate and lead the team, and I don’t see that trait in either Canales or Bryce.

I just went back and watched the Dan Campbell intro presser. I know Dave could never give that kind of speech.

I have no problem with number crunches or being a part of the process but I do with brining in PFF people and running their gospel. Like you said, for a flawed system they pretend it's never them. Well BS. And Tepper is absolutely on their crotch because we just drafted by them while building another easy picking top 10 team again.

Speeches only go so far as I'm sure Ron will tell you.