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Carolina Panthers - Potential cap casualties
jtm replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Robinson needs to stay. Tremble is the only reliable TE on the roster that I'd trust in a big moment. He isn't great, but he's fairly reliable and I don't see him going anywhere unless they make a play for a big splash TE in free agency or draft one early. Sanders has all the potential, but can't stay healthy and isn't the best blocker. -
Please don't compare Tet to KB. KB was the garbage time king. I remember a stat that show he had 1/2 of his yards in the 4th quarter during blowouts against the 2nd team defenses.
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Carolina Panthers - Potential cap casualties
Khyber53 replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Robinson would be the money-well-spent extension. Tremble has been blessed with a cool name that's easy to remember and some decent ability. Sadly, that doesn't translate into second contract kind of money with a crowded and under producing TE room already. -
Carolina Panthers - Potential cap casualties
ProcessBlue2 replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Tremble probably goes to make way for whatever new TE comes in the offseason. I think Robinson gets an extension. Pat Jones could go either way. -
I mean this is the problem with how we tried to build. We took a team with some holes and traded away assets for a QB... Cam elevated the team when he was drafted. It was not a very good team. Remember it'd not done particularly well in 2009 and was atrocious in 2010 - because of QB... We added good TEs but we needed a QB to get them the ball. We also didn't need to trade current weapons and future picks for Cam... We just had him there.
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OUT | Upper Body Eric Robinson: Robinson suffered an upper-body injury Monday Expected Return: Jan 29, 2026 DAY-TO-DAY | Lower Body Shayne Gostisbehere: Gostisbehere (lower body) Expected Return: Jan 22, 2026 IR | Concussion Noah Philp: Philp (concussion) was placed on injured reserve. Expected Return: Jan 24, 2026 IR | Hip Pyotr Kochetkov: Kochetkov (undisclosed) Expected Return: Sep 15, 2026 IR | Hand Charles-Alexis Legault: Legault was placed on injured reserve Tuesday after having a procedure repair several torn extensor tendons on his right hand. Expected Return: Mar 2, 2026
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Carolina Panthers - Potential cap casualties
TD alt replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
They all provide some value at or around their current numbers. I'd be reluctant to let a solid, but unspectacular, DT (or OT for that matter) just leave without talking to him. -
Meh. You don't necessarily trade a king's ransom for a draft pick, but you should strike when the opportunity presents itself. It's all about scouting and taking the BPA. You don't pass up on a viable QB---your guy who's just sitting there--just because it's year one to three and your team has holes. Just build your team.
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Carolina Panthers - Potential cap casualties
PanthersNCSU replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
TE needs an upgrade. Ben Johnson obviously does Ben Johnson things, but Caleb Williams having Loveland was huge for them this year, not to mention the few Kmet games where he goes off. But...where does that upgrade come from? How much money does Otton get on the open market, and is he worth it? Is Sadiq worth a 1st round pick when we have so many other needs? Point being, I can't see us moving on from Tremble *unless* we sign Otton and don't see us drafting Sadiq in the 1st. I don't think Tremble is worth the 6 million number, but I think he's one of the "core" guys in the locker room that we'll eat the overpay to keep around this year. -
I hated the trade to #1 but wanted CJ he is still the better player but after the success and he started going to the all white party's and dating Amber Rose( a atheist, even though he said he is a man of God) it did make me wonder if his head was in the right place. Seems he thought he had arrived and the work ethic slipped.
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Carolina Panthers - Potential cap casualties
PootieNunu replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
His rookie year is very comparable to Ian Thomas rookie year. Both 300 yards with 1-2 TDs. He might not be a outright bust, but he's JAG. -
The team around Cam was very good. Unlike Bryce.
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Carolina Panthers - Potential cap casualties
SetfreexX replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
A 4th round pick is a bust...as a rookie I'm pretty sure he had more receiving yards for us versus any TE after Olsen, dealt with injuries this year and ended on IR with a broken ankle. Bust is an exaggeration for a 2nd year guy that showed potential / flashes etc. -
"the issue that I see with a lot of teams is they get a quarterback and they try and build around that quarterback. I think it should be the other way around. I think you should build a team and put your quarterback in it. " Bingo. I've been saying this for years now. I'm not saying NFL GMs are idiots, but they get stuck in an old school of thought and have a hard time thinking outside out the old paradigm. Draft the QB, no matter what! If you are at #1, I get it...you have to shoot your shot, especially if there's a legit franchise guy there. However, I keep going back to the '23 draft, we had zero business taking a QB especially at #9 and what it took to get to #1. That should have been a foundational draft to set up for a QB in the '24 draft. The roster was NOT ready yet. The Steelers are far enough back that they need to stay out of it in round one, maybe take a stab in the middle rounds for a QB and maybe strike gold. Obviously this would be a project guy year one and not starting. The QB position is the hardest for a rookie to adjust to. Why in the world would anyone think dropping said rookie into a dumpster fire is going to work out well? It's just common sense to me.
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The catch still counted...Piñero missed the PAT because it went from 32 to 47 yards....the bum. Also the helmet removal was legal iirc, he was out of the field of play.
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Interesting chart on offensive tendencies of all NFL teams
PootieNunu replied to raleigh-panther's topic in Carolina Panthers
fug it, do it. Maybe it takes him getting Colt McCoy'd to finally end this failing experiment. -
He's right, we should have never drafted Cam.
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Yeah maybe. Borderline. I was thinking he was 13th for some reason. Trading up to get a 10 ish pick is nowhere near as risky as #1 or 2 Building a solid roster also puts you in the position of being where the Manning, Brady, Stafford want to go to win a or another SB.
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Big Ben on drafting a QB and roster building
Davidson Deac II replied to NAS's topic in Carolina Panthers
Does Mahomes not count as highly drafted? He was top 10. But I generally agree. Drafting a QB in the top five is not usually successful. QB is such a crapshoot anyway. -
So that’s what we’re doing. Phew, I thought Bryce was it. Now I see their real plan.
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The Mannings were the last two highly drafted qbs to win a SB with the team that drafted them. Nobody else taken in top 10 won the Super Bowl with their original team. Stafford did it but after a trade.
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Speaking about Steelers “I would not draft a quarterback for at least two to three years. That's just my opinion. I think as a GM, if I'm GMing this team ... the issue that I see with a lot of teams is they get a quarterback and they try and build around that quarterback. I think it should be the other way around. I think you should build a team and put your quarterback in it. Okay? It happened to me. They had a great football team. They plugged me in. We had a veteran group. It just works. It works better than trying to grab a quarterback and be, okay, we're gonna build around this quarterback, because then it's gonna take you four or five years to build around that quarterback. He's probably gonna look like poo up to it and then you're like, is he really our guy? is he not our guy?" I agree with him. Only downside is if you build too good of a roster you’re not drafting high enough to get your QB
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What do they classify as RPO? I've seen that classified anywhere between "the QB sorta faked a handoff from shotgun" as being RPO all the way to "there's a mesh point and the QB is carrying the RB upfield and receivers are actually running routes." We run a lot of the former, not so much the latter (and I'd like to see more of it.)
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Single route plays happen all the time, hate to burst your bubble. What do you think a screen is? But most short/medium plays are designed for half-field reads depending on the defensive coverage, so they're automatically cut down to two or three routes on the snap. Full five eligible progressions are not the norm in most offenses, just because QBs rarely have the amount of time available to reach the fourth or fifth receivers. Most routes are eliminated by coverage before the snap, and receivers recognize this as well and will adjust their routes accordingly, often either going through the motions or running a route designed to carry defenders rather than to get open (which is still very useful and is built into the play design.)
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