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Auburn was a heavy running team last year. Crazy Robinson is rated so high when they say he doesn't know how to pass block

"A handful of scouts and others I trust think the safer pick at tackle would be Matthews, rather than Robinson. They say it's because Robinson still has to learn to pass block, and that's risky."

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From the article...

 

 

Who's overrated? I also asked those same personnel people for a handful of players who they think are overrated. The names that were mentioned:

 

Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Louisville
Morgan Moses, T, Virginia
Justin Gilbert, CB, Oklahoma State
Stephon Tuitt, DE, Notre Dame
Louis Nix, DT, Notre Dame
Kony Ealy, DE, Missouri
Kyle Van Noy, OLB, BYU
Jeremiah Attaochu, DE, Georgia Tech
Kelvin Benjamin, WR, Florida State

 

I would disagree on Moses, Nix and Van Noy. But that's why they get paid to do it, and I don't.

 

 

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I agree with a lot of that list. There's not a lot of depth when it comes to the front 7 players in this year's draft, so a lot of players get propped up. The one guy I really disagree with is Teddy Bridgewater, because saying he's overrated implies that there's some sort of consensus -- there isn't. He's all over the place depending on which scout you ask.

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i know there has been talk about a DE in the first for us.

 

I've watched a bit on this Ealy guy. And he doesn't pop at all for me. Looks like a 3rd or 4th rounder. Am i just missing something?

 

Whatever you're missing, I'm missing it too.

 

The tape I've watched of him just doesn't show me anything special.

 

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i know there has been talk about a DE in the first for us.

 

I've watched a bit on this Ealy guy. And he doesn't pop at all for me. Looks like a 3rd or 4th rounder. Am i just missing something?

 

Agreed. He's got very good lateral agility so he can dip and bend, but he's just not that explosive.

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Auburn was a heavy running team last year. Crazy Robinson is rated so high when they say he doesn't know how to pass block

"A handful of scouts and others I trust think the safer pick at tackle would be Matthews, rather than Robinson. They say it's because Robinson still has to learn to pass block, and that's risky."

 

 

Auburn threw the ball 284 times last year.

 

Yeah, that ain't like the Mike Leach Air Raid, but almost 300 passes is still a pretty significant sample.  And Robinson didn't perpetually struggle or get constantly owned on those passing downs.  He was consistent and held his own on passing downs all year.

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Thank god I'm not the only one who thinks Gilbert is overrated. Dude is so scared of contact it's unreal and can't/won't shed a block to help defend the run game.

I was also expecting to see Brandon Cooks on this list, you can quote me as saying he's not a first round receiver.

I'm still trying to polish up my final rankings but I'd take all of these receivers over Cooks.(in order)....

1. Watkins

2. Evans

3. Beckham

4. Robinson

5. Lee

6. Matthews

7.Benjamin

8. Latimer

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Thank god I'm not the only one who thinks Gilbert is overrated. Dude is so scared of contact it's unreal and can't/won't shed a block to help defend the run game.

 

 

 

Know who else was scared of contact and couldn't/wouldn't shed a block to help defend the run game?

 

Deion Sanders.

 

Now, I'm not saying Gilbert is another Deion Sanders, I'm just saying that if his pass defense is outstanding, sometimes you're willing to give a little in the run game for the shut-down corner.

 

The question is, is Gilbert a shut-down corner?

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Know who else was scared of contact and couldn't/wouldn't shed a block to help defend the run game?

Deion Sanders.

Now, I'm not saying Gilbert is another Deion Sanders, I'm just saying that if his pass defense is outstanding, sometimes you're willing to give a little in the run game for the shut-down corner.

The question is, is Gilbert a shut-down corner?

He's not Deion sanders

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