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12 men on the field twice?

Smith vs Lucas

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Cyberjag Newbie

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I think its pretty obvious that we've been out of it as a team for the past two games.  That starts with the coaching staff.  And of course, it makes me wonder just how much some external crap affected them. 

 

Think there's anything the FO can do to bring some relief and get their focus back on winning games?

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I believe it was a game changer.

 

 

After the half, the defense came out with a new attitude and looked like the defense in the first two games. They forced a 3 and out... and bam... special teams penalty, first down.

 

 

That completely deflated the defense just as they were getting a head of steam. Momentum lost.

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I believe it was a game changer.

After the half, the defense came out with a new attitude and looked like the defense in the first two games. They forced a 3 and out... and bam... special teams penalty, first down.

That completely deflated the defense just as they were getting a head of steam. Momentum lost.

I honestly think special team coach is on a very hot seat.

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The Hardy situation seems to be a distraction.  I thought the coaching staff could keep the team together, but thus far, they're doing a not.  What makes this situation unique is that Ron wanted Hardy out there.  This isn't Ron vs Hardy, it's Ron vs the front office.  

 

Hadry isn't the sole reason why we've been blown out the last two games, but it's definitely part of it.  The whole organization seems lost.  However, there is good news.  We're 2-0 in the conference and 1-0 in the divsion.  

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I believe it was a game changer.

 

 

After the half, the defense came out with a new attitude and looked like the defense in the first two games. They forced a 3 and out... and bam... special teams penalty, first down.

 

 

That completely deflated the defense just as they were getting a head of steam. Momentum lost.

 

Then that makes it two weeks in a row where we seemed to be on the cusp of a turning point, only to have the special teams unit let us down.  Who knows how those moments may have changed the games - Philly's phumble and the 12-man penalty yesterday.

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The Hardy situation seems to be a distraction. I thought the coaching staff could keep the team together, but thus far, they're doing a not. What makes this situation unique is that Ron wanted Hardy out there. This isn't Ron vs Hardy, it's Ron vs the front office.

Hadry isn't the sole reason why we've been blown out the last two games, but it's definitely part of it. The whole organization seems lost. However, there is good news. We're 2-0 in the conference and 1-0 in the divsion.

I think with the Hardy situation it was JR vs. DG and Rivera. Both DG and Rivera are football guys and don't deal with sh*t like that. JR forced them to take action and Rom ended up taking the fall for it. JR's initial stance was actually good but he caved under the media pressure. Quite a shame.

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I think with the Hardy situation it was JR vs. DG and Rivera. Both DG and Rivera are football guys and don't deal with sh*t like that. JR forced them to take action and Rom ended up taking the fall for it. JR's initial stance was actually good but he caved under the media pressure. Quite a shame.

 

Either way, it all comes down to Hardy making a dumbass desicion.  It's been beat to death and I'm over it at this point.  This is Ron's team and he has a responibility to get these players in line.  He did it last year so I'm not jumping off the deep end like most others.

 

Big Frank now has an opportunity like no other.  I hope he's up to it cause this defense needs some help right now.

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