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No One Giving Us a Chance


restNChrist

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I hate ESPN! Not a single person on ESPN is giving us a chance! Herd says "Cam is worst QB in playoffs in decade." Stink called Cam bottom five QB and said we would lose by 20! What else have you heard and is anyone calling it out way at all?

Tony Dungy believes and he believed we could do it before we beat AZ.

Dungy > all ESPN personalities

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I don't know why this bothers me so much...but it does.  Facts are a bitch...and if you look at the stats (any stats) for QBs the last 3-4 years you HAVE to put Cam in the discussion for being elite.  Does he throw high sometimes?  Yes. Does he fail to check down sometimes?  Yes.  But does he move the damn ball? Yes.  Would over the half the teams in the league trade their current starting QB for Cam in a heartbeat.  Abso-damn-lutely they would.

 

EDIT: Yes, there were times in the past when I sook my damn head and thought we'd be better off with a "pocket passser" (whatever that is nowadays).  But Cam changed my mind.  He's my damn QB damnit.

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Still, I'm not thinking we lose, just hate the Cam hate. Also, has anyone heard of anyone taking us?

 

I don't know for sure if he's taking us to win, but Dungy is like the only person that is giving us a chance saying don't be surprised if Carolina makes some noise in the CLink.

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Talking heads come in several categories typically players, coaches and guys who never played the game. They pick teams it seems based on which team they feel better represents their are of expertise. They pick their teams based on where they played, what they coached, or what is the easy pick for those who profess no bias. And have no experience as well. Dungy is a defensive guy so he tends to like the Panthers defense and sees Cam's potential. Jaws is a quarterback who wasn't very athletic and watched as a young Randall Cunningham became his back-up and eventually replaced him. Cam is the new and improved version of Randall Cunningham. If Ron was biased toward technique over athleticism because of his experiences with Randall, he would be biased against Cam who is very much like Cunningham only bigger and more durable.

They all have their biases or go with the safe pick which is Seattle. Even if you are wrong you are in good company and can say that everyone got that wrong.

So I don't expect many to pick us and maybe they are all right and I am just a homer. I truly believe we are going to persevere and find a way to win. But what do I know? I always think we are going to win and that the talking heads are going to be wrong this time.

No matter the ending this has been a great December and early January. I am going to enjoy it as long as I can. I hope come Sunday we are still playing ball.

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