Cam's Most Important Offseason Yet

[CRA]

seriously, Cam would never make the types of throws Wilson made on those first two touchdown passes

You mean lobs?

First one could easily of been a bad result....Boston played horrible so it looked like a great play. Good S play and it isn't a TD....bc it was just a lob.

Other lob the WR pushed off bc coverage was there....bc it was just a lob.

That wasn't great QB play. Bad defense.

Like the Philly Brown TD against Atl.....Cam lobbed it up. Falcon defender just played it horrible. Wasn't a play worth bragging about a QBs ability to throw

[teeray]

seriously, Cam would never make the types of throws Wilson made on those first two touchdown passes

Is that a critique in Cam or the receivers?

It is clear that Cam doesn't have the faith in his receivers to do that. Maybe it is an issue with him or maybe it is an issue with the receivers.

Either way, Cam is learning and developing. Despite what some people say he is actually a much better QB now than he was as a rookie. He has developed and has gotten better.

[KendrickPanther]

I think that's a pretty good OP. It hits on a ton of good but fair points. 

 

The one thing I disagree with is his first interception negatively impacting the game. It might as well been a punt. He didn't allow it to affect his performance which to me was a big step for him. You could argue running for the first down or completing a safer throw was an option but he took a low risk shot.

 

Cam's deep ball accuracy wasn't that great as a rookie. Go back and watch and see how many times Steve Smith cam back and fought for balls. Greg Olsen is the only guy he really hits in stride other than that incredible Ginn pass last year.

 

I would like to see Cam develop little traits and skills to help him. Think of it as filling a tool belt with tools. I want to see more pre snap reads and audibles. I want to see cadence tricks, being able to draw a team offside is an incredible weapon. I really really really want to see him develop a pump fake. Being able to move defenders with his arm and eyes rather than his body is an incredible tool.  

 

Obviously mechanics, anticipation throw, and touch are all things he can work on but I'd like to see one more thing. Throwing on the run. You saw Cam leave the pocket and try to throw rather than run it vs. Seattle. It was really exciting to see him think like that. He didn't have the accuracy to do it but I feel like he can work on that. You saw Aaron Rodgers hobble out of the pocket and just torque a touchdown into tight coverage. Man would it be great to see Cam do that. He hit an open Stewart vs. the Browns which was great. But to do it in tighter windows would be incredible.

[Cary Kollins]

You mean lobs?

First one could easily of been a bad result....Boston played horrible so it looked like a great play. Good S play and it isn't a TD....bc it was just a lob.

Other lob the WR pushed off bc coverage was there....bc it was just a lob.

That wasn't great QB play. Bad defense.

Like the Philly Brown TD against Atl.....Cam lobbed it up. Falcon defender just played it horrible. Wasn't a play worth bragging about a QBs ability to throw

 

 

 

Yeah I want to call it a lucky pass by Wilson, but he seems to do it twice a game against us so I don't know what else to say other than it was a great play.

[Brothergrim427]

We definitely don't have the right personnel for a WCO, and outside of his mobility, I'm not sure Cam's skill set fits it.

good point if I'm not mistaken isn't at system more suited to a weak armed Qb like a Matt Hasselbeck ?

[Cary Kollins]

Is that a critique in Cam or the receivers?

It is clear that Cam doesn't have the faith in his receivers to do that. Maybe it is an issue with him or maybe it is an issue with the receivers.

Either way, Cam is learning and developing. Despite what some people say he is actually a much better QB now than he was as a rookie. He has developed and has gotten better.

 

 

I think it's a little bit of both.

 

 

I think Cam could benefit greatly by learning to take some zip off the ball in certain situations.

 

I also think the lack of talent at WR forces Cam to press instead of trusting the WR to make a play on the ball.

[Mr. Scot]

good point if I'm not mistaken isn't at system more suited to a weak armed Qb like a Matt Hasselbeck ?

 

Not necessarily "weak armed" but more of a "touch" passer than Newton is.

 

You also need OL that are generally leaner and more athletic along with receivers who are known for yards after catch.

 

[Brothergrim427]

Not necessarily "weak armed" but more of a "touch" passer than Newton is.

You also need OL that are generally leaner and more athletic along with receivers who are known for yards after catch.

I see I think I get the picture thank you for the insight

[ECUPantherFan]

I don't know why... but when I see guys like Brady, Manning, Rodgers, Brees, etc (when they're healthy) drop back and throw the ball, I have a confidence that the pass is going to be completed, and overthrows/underthrows are an anomaly.  With Cam, I just don't get that feeling.  I hold my breath every time he fires one down the field.  Maybe it's because he's the QB of the team I love... but I wonder if I were say, a Pats fan, if I'd get nervous every time Brady threw it.

Cam will get there... he's just not there yet.  But definitely improving!  Get the man some WR's and a few seconds to throw, and it's an entirely new ballgame.

[CRA]

Yeah I want to call it a lucky pass by Wilson, but he seems to do it twice a game against us so I don't know what else to say other than it was a great play.

We gave up big plays all season except for that small window against the league's worst....

We weren't a top 10 D. I'd have to fact check it but I wonder if any team in the NFL gave up as many big play TDs this year

[Mr. Scot]

I see I think I get the picture thank you for the insight

 

Honestly if you wanted to look at what system best suits Newton, the Coryell we run now is probably the first choice.

 

Newton is a longballer and a gunslinger, both of which fit well into a big play type of offense.

 

Of late though, I'm a bigger fan of the E-P.

[Cary Kollins]

We gave up big plays all season except for that small window against the league's worst....

We weren't a top 10 D. I'd have to fact check it but I wonder if any team in the NFL gave up as many big play TDs this year

 

 

We were a top 10 unit since December, and those were not against the league's worst offenses.

[thefuzz]

Honestly if you wanted to look at what system best suits Newton, the Coryell we run now is probably the first choice.

 

Newton is a longballer and a gunslinger, both of which fit well into a big play type of offense.

 

Of late though, I'm a bigger fan of the E-P.

 

What worries me about the AC, is the importance teams are placing on no. 1 CB's and pass rushers.

 

 

It's fine during the regular season, but when it get's cold, and you are playing those really good defenses, that's a tough O to run well.

 

 

As to the OP, this is an important offseason, not only for Cam, but for the Panthers as well.  Got a 100 million dollar decision coming up here soon.  We as a team need to hitch our wagon to Cam, but at what cost?

[Mr. Scot]

What worries me about the AC, is the importance teams are placing on no. 1 CB's and pass rushers.

 

It's fine during the regular season, but when it get's cold, and you are playing those really good defenses, that's a tough O to run well.

 

As to the OP, this is an important offseason, not only for Cam, but for the Panthers as well.  Got a 100 million dollar decision coming up here soon.  We as a team need to hitch our wagon to Cam, but at what cost?

 

That's the 64 million dollar question right now.