Bill Voth's chat with Gettleman: Understanding offseason plans

[CarolinaNCSU]

Some people take BPA way too literal.

 

Obviously we're not drafting Winston or Mariotta if they fall to 25. Use your freaking heads.

[mbarbour21]

If there are two equally graded players and one is of a position of need....you take the position of need.

If there are two players graded very closely and one is of need....you usually take the need.

If the position of need is graded many positions below another player....the need has no impact on the pick.

Wow!!! You make it sound like Gettleman knows what he's doing!!!!............……get out.

[Khaki Lackey]

Some people take BPA way too literal.

Obviously we're not drafting Winston or Mariotta if they fall to 25. Use your freaking heads.

Uh....yes we would. If a blue chip falls, you pick it up. You're crazy if you think we wouldn't draft Mariotta at 25. Imagine the flexibility it would give us.

[ThPantherFan]

Convert Cam to WR. It's the only logical solution.

 

Cam's too slow for receiver.  Yes he scrambles but watch the receivers run vs his runs.

 

[jdpanther5]

Gettleman also said we considered taking a WR in just about every round last year. So it's obviously not as simple as saying "we have this guy ranked 16th and this one 19th, so take 16." Talent level, team needs, relative positional and replacement value, how the draft is flowing (e.g. are DEs flying off the board faster than expected while WRs are going slower), etc. all factor in.

[CarolinaNCSU]

Uh....yes we would. If a blue chip falls, you pick it up. You're crazy if you think we wouldn't draft Mariotta at 25. Imagine the flexibility it would give us.

 

Flexibility for what? To watch him sit on the bench? Oh, Cam contract flexibility? So after being called a franchise QB, we draft Mariotta, sit him a year (not knowing if he's actually worth anything as a player), and use it to bait Cam into a cheaper deal? Or have a Cousins/RGIII type situation? 

 

We'd trade the hell out of that pick and if you think otherwise you're crazy IMO.

 

25 year old, franchise QB. Who desperately needs offensive help. 2 straight years in the playoffs and on the verge of being contenders...you actually think Gettleman drafts a Mariotta there, instead of an actual need/immediate help OR trading back? Get real. 

[London Loves Luke]

Uh....yes we would. If a blue chip falls, you pick it up. You're crazy if you think we wouldn't draft Mariotta at 25. Imagine the flexibility it would give us.

 

BPA does not work for QBs. When you draft a QB in the first round you send signals. Those aren't the sort of signals you send when you believe your current QB is your franchise QB. 

[TheRed]

Uh....yes we would. If a blue chip falls, you pick it up. You're crazy if you think we wouldn't draft Mariotta at 25. Imagine the flexibility it would give us.

 

Drafting a QB at 25th overall with all our other needs would be pretty damn dumb. We still need at least one other legit WR (particularly a speedy one), and we still need to find a left tackle, and to continue building the OL around the franchise QB that we already have.

 

Seems some here have already forgotten just how historically awful our offensive line was at one point this past season.

[Snake]

Most people miss the fact that BPA means BPA. DG likes to fill need in FA that way he can pick the best player. Not the best player of need.So if a top 5 pick falls to us and he is the best play we will pick him, no matter if that's QB or LT. DG has said if we end up with a log jam he is ok with that.

[Jakob]

Why does half the forum struggle to understand what BPA really means? Yeah we might draft a can't miss player at a position that isn't a serious need. That doesn't mean we would draft a QB or MLB in the first round.

[CPF4LIFE]

You draft him anyway. That's how the Packers ended up with Aaron Rodgers.

Favre was also in old man status in the league. They needed QB to groom

[scarface]

Cam's too slow for receiver.  Yes he scrambles but watch the receivers run vs his runs.

 

Uh....yes we would. If a blue chip falls, you pick it up. You're crazy if you think we wouldn't draft Mariotta at 25. Imagine the flexibility it would give us.

 

BPA...So what if BPA is a QB?

 

[MHS831]

If there are two equally graded players and one is of a position of need....you take the position of need.

 

If there are two players graded very closely and one is of need....you usually take the need.

 

If the position of need is graded many positions below another player....the need has no impact on the pick.

 

Yep. Common sense.  One I would like to add to this:

 

If there are 2 players close to one another and they are both positions of need, you have to consider something I call "rarity."  LTs, QBs, 4-3 stud DEs, for example, are hard to find.  If a LT and a G are positions of need and are close, you take the LT.  Playing a LT on a first contract for 4-5 years saves more than playing a G on a first contract because you can find a free agent G for about $3-6m (for example) but a LT of equal quality on a second contract is at least twice that.,

[updownsigma]

Cam's too slow for receiver.  Yes he scrambles but watch the receivers run vs his runs.

 

 

I'm just going to leave this here...

 

 

(Notice he has to slow down for Smith to block for him on this play?)

 

You draft him anyway.  That's how the Packers ended up with Aaron Rodgers.

 

Completely different situation. Favre was 35 when they drafted Rodgers.

 

That being said, obviously if Mariota fell to us, we should take him. Not for leverage negotiating with Cam's contract, but we could probably get a current second and future first (or second, maybe) from a QB-needy team looking to trade back up into the first to get him. Similar to what happened with Bridgewater last year.