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Percy Harvin

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What do the huddlers think about this idea? Harvin is an explosive threat exactly like what we are looking for. His prior problems with seattle I believe are a little overblown I

Mean the guy destroyed on special teams and is a constant threat with the ball in his hands. If the jets decide to release him barring a ridiculous price coming with him i think he actually is a great fit for us, similar to ted ginn but more of an upgrade. I can just see the option being ran with him and cam, could be deadly. So what say you huddlers, yay or nay?

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I wonder who wants to come here for cheap. Why would they do that?

I dont want anything to do with him but his price will be affected by being traded away, followed by being traded away again for a loss, followed by being cut (what it would require for him to be available). All the while being a dissapointment on the field and having a reputation for being a pain in the ass.

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As I stated in the other thread he's probably hoping for a deal similar to whatever Cobb gets. And who knows, he could pan out to be worth it. Wed probably at least have to give him what AZ paid for Ginn last year. While he is an intriguing player with some perceivable upside, is he worth the risk? He maybe one of those players that ends up "watching the market" waiting for a desperate team to miss on other targets then settle for him in order to get what he wants. In that case I'm on the side of hoping its not us who take the high risk high reward approach. After getting burned by Hardy we can't afford to waste any more money.

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Harvin is an electric player at times, but he is also a diva that wants too much money. He can be a match-up nightmare, but doesn't seem like a team guy, inasmuch as doing what it takes happily on the field---including taking a backseat when the coaches deem necessary. The Jets probably aren't going to want to pay him $10 mil per year, that's why there is the expectation that he will be cut.  I don't see him wanting to take the $7 mil (max) that we would probably offer him, so Harvin is not in the cards.  

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