First World Problems

[PandaPancake]

How many teams that won the super bowl in the last 10 years had their qb as their highest paid player? Im new to football so Im curious.

 

At least one 

[Mr. Scot]

How many teams that won the super bowl in the last 10 years had their qb as their highest paid player? Im new to football so Im curious.

Interesting question.

I know none of the 100 million dollar QBs have won it. Some of them got their 100 million contracts after winning it (Brees, Flacco, etc).

Looked it up a while back, and if I recall correctly the highest paid winner was Peyton at 90 million. The lowest not still on a rookie deal was Brady at something like 70 million.

[Daeavorn]

Interesting question.

I know none of the 100 million dollar QBs have won it. Some of them got their 100 million contracts after winning it (Brees, Flacco, etc).

Looked it up a while back, and if I recall correctly the highest paid winner was Peyton at 90 million. The lowest not still on a rookie deal was Brady at something like 70 million.

So if thats the case, why do people keep doing it? How can you make the argument that the qb is the most important position if when you pay them 100m you cant pay other guys enough?

I guess eventually they will start eventually but only because it will become the new league standard.

[Gin and Juice]

I think some may have blanked it out.

To the point where many were heard to say, "We drafted Luke Kuechly? What the #%@$? We need a defensive tackle!"

A decision that showed us fans that we really are clueless. Playing Arm Chair GM is fun and all, but we really think instant gratification and with too much emotion

[Gin and Juice]

So if thats the case, why do people keep doing it? How can you make the argument that the qb is the most important position if when you pay them 100m you cant pay other guys enough?

I guess eventually they will start eventually but only because it will become the new league standard.

Scares me to think just how bad Cam and Luke contracts could handicap this team, not to mention if Josh, KK, Bene, Star and Kelvin continue to improve. We are gonna be losing a lot of good players to FA

[mc52beast]

Just remember, it wasn't too long ago that Hurney was our GM and Clausen was our qb...

[TheNewStandard]

Scares me to think just how bad Cam and Luke contracts could handicap this team, not to mention if Josh, KK, Bene, Star and Kelvin continue to improve. We are gonna be losing a lot of good players to FA

thomAs Davis at 9 mil, CJ at like 18 mil, Kalil at 11million...they will not get new contracts and will expire over the next 2 years. not to mention the rb's expiring and also Tolbert.

this draft will go a long way in replacing those players so they will be developed for when it's time for the second contracts of our young core.

[Mr. Scot]

So if thats the case, why do people keep doing it? How can you make the argument that the qb is the most important position if when you pay them 100m you cant pay other guys enough?

I guess eventually they will start eventually but only because it will become the new league standard.

Because nobody's agent cares whether it worked out good for the last team that did it.

All he cares about is his guy getting more.

[thefuzz]

I'll grant the "we must dump this guy" conversation is still happening. But even so, it still strikes me as there being a more optimistic tone in here than in prior years.

Frankly, a waaaayyyy more optimistic tone than anyone would have expected around, say, week nine.

And that's part of what gets me. We had a nightmarish season up till the latter days, and yet few people even seem to remember that (or at least they're not talking about it much).

 

Honestly, I'm not forgetting that at all.

 

We are pretty inept on offense, and Cam missing TC and being hurt added to that.

 

Talent is needed, but coaching is the bigger issue, IMO.

[thefuzz]

So if thats the case, why do people keep doing it? How can you make the argument that the qb is the most important position if when you pay them 100m you cant pay other guys enough?

I guess eventually they will start eventually but only because it will become the new league standard.

 

Here's the skinny on it.

 

You have to have a good to great QB to win consistently during the regular season, but everything is different in the playoffs.

 

Then you need great coaching, a decent running game, a good to great defense, and a good to great QB.

 

 

Most of the teams that make the playoffs consistently have good QB's, and fans will continue to support a team as long as they are winning consistently.  You need an upper tier QB to win like that.

[top dawg]

We still need a LT and another WR to truly make noise. I feel good about the D. Sure, it'd be nice to add another CB, another safety, and some depth along the DL, but LT and WR are our glaring holes. Gettleman HAS to find a way to address them this offseason. I don't care if it's draft, trade, or FA. Gotta find KB a legit starting caliber NFL WR running mate and gotta get Cam some decent blindside protection. Having to constantly help out Byron Bell really hamstrings our offense.

In other words, we generally feel good about things, but if we don't find another LT and WR, all the DBs in the world will not help us get over the hump.

[updownsigma]

I like the overall direction this franchise is heading, but I have one thing that still bothers me.

 

 

Shula.

 

 

Fix that, get a legit offensive playcaller, and we can make some noise.

 

Hypothetical question though: would you rather have an average to good OC, or an average to good LT and average to good #2 WR?

 

I honestly dunno, I keep picturing us upgrading at LT and WR and still having an average at best offense (like 2013). On the other hand, Bell is just so bad it really hinders what the team can do offensively, no matter how brilliant the coordinator is.

[Doc Holiday]

So am I being overly optimistic, or do folks here genuinely think we might just have turned the proverbial corner?

I think it's realizing the position that we are in. we won the NFCS while having a losing record last year, we're the only team in the NFCS with a Defense worth mentioning.  the other teams are on one level or another of a rebuild.  there is a real chance for us not only to win the NFCS again next year and threepeat but go on to put strangle hold on the NFCS as the power that be.