Judge overturns Peterson suspension

[teeray]

Devil is in the details, but this could have ramifications for Greg Hardy, especially the issues of punishment under new policies enacted after the incident occured and if commissioners exempt list considered a pre-discipline discipline

@AdamSchefter: Judge Doty has overturned Adrian Peterson decision and Peterson now will be reinstated, per source.

[Udogg]

What do you people do for a living that you can respond so fast to these happening??????

 

 

[teeray]

What do you people do for a living that you can respond so fast to these happening??????

Snow day bruh

[Byrdman4real]

Should be good for Hardy maybe

[Nick_81]

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet  46s47 seconds ago

The @NFL says it will “review the decision” by Judge Doty to make Adrian Peterson immediately eligible.

[teeray]

NFLPA is 2 for 2 on these appeals to courts with the new policies. I am interested to read the ruling, but it is becoming clear you can't make up a rule and then retroactively apply it to someone.

Means Hardy likely at worst would be looking at 2 game suspension.

Another big question will be whether judge had an opinion on commissioners exempt list being disciplinary in nature

[Mr. Scot]

NFLPA is 2 for 2 on these appeals to courts with the new policies. I am interested to read the ruling, but it is becoming clear you can't make up a rule and then retroactively apply it to someone.

Means Hardy likely at worst would be looking at 2 game suspension.

Another big question will be whether judge had an opinion on commissioners exempt list being disciplinary in nature

 

If I recall correctly, this particular judge has sided against Goodell before.

 

I think in general judges have been finding that the NFL's accounts of how things went down "less than credible".

 

Could be good for Hardy.  Still not likely to make any difference to the Panthers though.

[teeray]

If I recall correctly, this particular judge has sided against Goodell before.

I think in general judges have been finding that the NFL's accounts of how things went down "less than credible".

Could be good for Hardy. Still not likely to make any difference to the Panthers though.

Yes Judge Doty has sided against the NFL before.

[csx]

NFLPA is 2 for 2 on these appeals to courts with the new policies. I am interested to read the ruling, but it is becoming clear you can't make up a rule and then retroactively apply it to someone.

Means Hardy likely at worst would be looking at 2 game suspension.

Another big question will be whether judge had an opinion on commissioners exempt list being disciplinary in nature

Why do you think 2 at worst?

[teeray]

Why do you think 2 at worst?

Because when the Hardy stuff happened general suspension for domestic issue was 2 games.

They retroactively created this commissioners exempt list policy, then minimum 6 game suspension.

Both Ray Rice case and this case will say you can't make new rules after the fact and try to enforce them

That is why I say worst would likely be 2 games.

[Moorgan]

Certainly is interesting and creeps the door open (no pun intended) for Hardy's case...which might make him less likely to sign a one year Imma good boy deal with the panthers (other reasons panthers may not bring him back notwithstanding).

[csx]

Because when the Hardy stuff happened general suspension for domestic issue was 2 games.

They retroactively created this commissioners exempt list policy, then minimum 6 game suspension.

Both Ray Rice case and this case will say you can't make new rules after the fact and try to enforce them

That is why I say worst would likely be 2 games.

But two games wasn't the rule or the general outcome as it was handled on a case by case basis. PED and Drug offenses were handled by the CBA while personal conduct issues where not. That lead to each one being handled on a case per case basis. There was no prior rule so to me any new rule can applied IMO. I'm not trying to defend the leagues handling but I don't think it's out of line much either. To me the problem is they have to set something and stick with it and not have the Guantanamo Prison thing going on.

 

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/nfl-domestic-violence-policy-suspensions/

[UNCrules2187]

ProFootballTalk ‏@ProFootballTalk  1m1 minute ago

Greg Hardy should receive no discipline and the NFL should clear him immediately, based on the Judge Doty ruling.

[csx]

Whatever it is they need to just do it so that both he and prospective teams can move on accordingly