2011 NFL draft revisited, would you take JJ Watt over Cam?

[TheRed]

And yet, Cam still hasn't reached Jake's level of wins. 

 

That's your argument?

 

Well let's take a look at that for a moment.

 

Delhomme: 7 seasons with the Panthers.

 

Newton: 4 seasons with the Panthers.

 

Cam, why don't you have more wins!?

 

I'm trying to be really really nice to you right now, but I want to you read this post as many times as possible so you can realize just how absurd your post was.

[CarolinaSock]

Had anyone pointed out the fact that we could have easily had JJ, Luke, and Wilson since he was a third round pick? So use your 2nd rounder on Wilson, meaning we'd no longer have Silatolu. Which I know would break many hearts around here.

[TheRed]

Considering we still haven't had a 1,000 yard RB since Cam has been here, this idea that we could have just inserted Wilson behind center here and coasted to a Super Bowl is dubious at best.

If Wilson isn't bringing Lynch or that secondary along with him, we can pretty much squash this right now.

[juliosantos]

Hell no, we would be like the bills all defense with no qb

[top dawg]

Do you know how bad we would have sucked over the years without Cam?

[Frizzy350]

Nope. Watt is one of my favorite players and is the best player in the nfl right now. I love me some cam though.

[cardiackat88.]

Why do you guys keep thinking we would wind up with Luck?

He would have refused to come here, and practically did by staying in college for one more year.

We would still be searching for a QB today.

[Mol3m4n]

If we had drafted Luck he would have just turned into Matthew Stafford.

[Verge]

Ask the Dolphins. Jake Long was the best tackle in the nfl for a period of three-four years, yet, I feel like they would go Ryan given the chance to do it again.

 

Franchise QB > Any non qb

[PanthersUnited]

I would take Watt no 1 overall and draft Andy Dalton in the 2nd. Dalton gets poked fun of around here but he is more than serviceable, especially if we drafted a player like Watt in the same draft

[Khyber53]

That's your argument?

 

Well let's take a look at that for a moment.

 

Delhomme: 7 seasons with the Panthers.

 

Newton: 4 seasons with the Panthers.

 

Cam, why don't you have more wins!?

 

I'm trying to be really really nice to you right now, but I want to you read this post as many times as possible so you can realize just how absurd your post was.

 

 

Umm, I was just comparing their first four years with the team, not 7 years versus 4. Did you not check your math? If you'll look, you'll see in those stats compared, Cam had even played a couple more games than Jake in the four year span.

 

Cam is a great athlete and a heck of a football player, we're lucky to have him. He has not, however, lived up to his billing. I sure hope he does and I will keep cheering him on each Sunday that he is with us. But man, you've got to step back and say, "Okay Superman, show us that it's about something more than this."

[Brooklyn Bully]

Depending on who our QB would be right now, yes. Watt is more of a talent than Cam is.

[TheRed]

Umm, I was just comparing their first four years with the team, not 7 years versus 4. Did you not check your math? If you'll look, you'll see in those stats compared, Cam had even played a couple more games than Jake in the four year span.

 

Cam is a great athlete and a heck of a football player, we're lucky to have him. He has not, however, lived up to his billing. I sure hope he does and I will keep cheering him on each Sunday that he is with us. But man, you've got to step back and say, "Okay Superman, show us that it's about something more than this."

 

You can't just compare those wins/losses in a vacuum, that is being incredibly obtuse.

 

The Panthers as a franchise were pretty different talent wise at the beginning and throughout each QB's career here.

 

Jake basically walked into having Steve Smith and Muhsin Muhammad at WR in their primes to grow with to start his career with the Panthers.

 

We weren't able to draft Newton an offensive starter to grow with (Kelvin Benjamin) literally until his 4th season, and that was the same season we gutted the entire WR core.

 

Your last comment at the end about Superman tells me exactly where your head is on this. It's the same tired bullshit we see on the Panthers facebook page day in and day out from Panthers "fans" telling Newton to get that towel off his head, to stop sulking, and to stop celebrating so much.

[L-TownCat]

There are actually still Panthers fans out there trying to prop up Delhomme after all these years? lol.

It took half a fugging decade to wash that stench off this franchise that was the Arizona debacle.

sigh*