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Lee Ward - Bodyguard

Jeremy Igo

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Do we really need Tolbert ? If we cut him how much cap room would we save ?

 

I just checked - about 2,5 million - if I read it right.

Yes.

Tolbert brings a skill set very few in thr nfl can.

 

He's more a Hback than fullback. Always has been.

 

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Tolbert is a nice option but he's certainly not essential. I like him but this could be his last season here. Anyways, Ward is likely competing with Brockel.

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This is exactly what we need for our offense. I Love Tolbert but he just doesn't fit the FB role for us. As noted he is more of a H-Back. Does that mean we should get rid of him, no! He is still a good player and can still play the HB/FB on 3rd and longs. And would be perfect as a short yardage RB ( yes Stewart is big and breaks tackles but the less shots in those scenarios, Tolbert played RB in short yardage for the Chargers as well) But a guy like Ward needs to be our FB pretty much every down but 3rd and long situations. I don't think it's much of a coincidence how smash and dash started to decline once Hoover hung it up. We need that bulldozer type blocker leading the way for our RB. Much like Hoover, and much like a for Giant (who gettleman likes to mold is like) Madison Hedgecock.

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​Yes. He's more of an offensive weapon like William Floyd was, especially in the red zone and on 3rd downs. It's no coincidence the Panthers were 1-7-1 in regular season games that he was injured in or on temporary IR for. With him healthy in the line-up, they went 6-1 and Shula was able to be less vanilla.

Still room for Ward on the team. We could also use a blocking fullback like Howard Griffith was for us. Brockel doesn't seem better than either Tolbert or Ward at what they do best, so the writing's on the wall for him.

​tolbert played 3 games before he got hurt - we won two of those and lost one of them. We beat Detroit and Tampa Bay  ( wow )  He did not appear in a game again till we played Arizona which we won.  The next game was against the Seahawks which of course we lost.

Your story that he makes such a difference doesnt seem to have much basis.

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​tolbert played 3 games before he got hurt - we won two of those and lost one of them. We beat Detroit and Tampa Bay  ( wow )  He did not appear in a game again till we played Arizona which we won.  The next game was against the Seahawks which of course we lost.

Your story that he makes such a difference doesnt seem to have much basis.

He played in the last 5 regular season games. 4 of those were wins.

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Here are Tolberts stats last year from PFF...

 

Rushing

WeekGamePosSAtt.YdsAvg.YCo.YCo / Att.LGTDMTFu
 41952.3651.615 5 
1CAR @ TBFBS7111.691.35000
2DET @ CARFBS4-5-1.330.82000
3PIT @ CARFBS341.341.32000
13CAR @ MINFBS252.531.53000
14CAR @ NOFBS5285.6142.815020
15TB @ CARFBP242.031.52000
16CLV @ CARFBS7192.7131.98010
17CAR @ ATLFBP7121.791.37010
WCARZ @ CARFBS273.552.56010
DPCAR @ SEAFBP2105.021.07000
 
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