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Overreaction Monday

nctarheel0619

By nctarheel0619,
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This from NFL.com. It's meh. Tepid reaction but that's to be expected at this point:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000535029/article/42-things-we-learned-in-week-2-pats-still-team-to-beat

Carolina Panthers 24, Houston Texans 17

 

1. Cam Newton is going to have to do this on his own. Outside of a beautiful touch pass bomb to Ted Ginn Jr. and a few fantastic catches by Greg Olsen, the Panthers are 2-0 thanks to a player that does everything but kick the extra points. Newton led the Panthers in rushing with 76 yards on Sunday in the face of an absolutely relentless pass rush.

2. Bill O'Brien is coaching the hell out of this Texans team and it's unfortunate that he won't have the record to show for it. After an overwhelmingly skittish Ryan Mallett tossed the first half away, O'Brien did a nice job of adjusting the game plan and giving him some underneath routes to hit in order to give Mallett his confidence back. In a game where Houston was thoroughly dominated by the Panthers, he had them within 20 yards of overtime.

3. Shaq Thompson isn't lighting up the box score like Luke Kuechly, but he's been a welcome addition to Carolina's linebacking corps. Is there any question that they have the most athletic set of non-rush linebackers in football right now? It may be overlooked, but their ability to control the intermediate portion of the field is winning them games.

-- Conor Orr

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Ornias Grand Master

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With the Eagles falling on their face and Dallas losing guys my $100 on the Giants winning the East is looking pretty good. I just felt like all of you should know

The Giants have imploded the first 2 games. I agree they may win by default, but I would not rule out Dallas until they start losing. 

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He's old. Generally old people don't give a fug.

Coughlin is an obsessive detail freak. He definitely gives a fug.  I just think his best coaching days might be behind him.

I could see him winding up with a front office role of some sort in New York. He was actually a pretty good talent evaluator when he had full control in Jacksonville.

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I don't think the Eagles, and Seahawks are as bad as their records indicate.

If we can get some consistency from our WR's (and our running game, we can't always expect damn near historic rushing totals from Cam every week to win games) in the coming weeks, we will be right in the mix.

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I don't think the Eagles, and Seahawks are as bad as their records indicate.

If we can get some consistency from our WR's (and our running game, we can't always expect damn near historic rushing totals from Cam every week to win games) in the coming weeks, we will be right in the mix.

What about some of the other 0-2s?

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I'm beginning to wonder if Tom Coughlin just doesn't have it anymore.

He's a sharp football mind, but lately his gameday coaching hasn't been very good.

Yea they gave up both their games due to bad coaching, but dont forget the bad play by their 2-time SB MVP quarterback!  He should be leaps and bounds better than he has been.  Last week's clock management decisions were those of a 3rd string, and his 2-minute drill yesterday was absolutely horrid.  No excuse on his end.

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