Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

2015 Arizona Cardinals


Anybodyhome

Recommended Posts

Look eerily familiar to the Cardinal team led by Kurt Warner that went to the Super Bowl after trouncing Carolina by 20. 

Not saying they could get past a Panther defense better than Minnesota, but their WRs, except for Larry Fitz, are fast and it seemed like they just kept bringing out one TE after another to catch passes against whichever LB the Vikes put in coverage. Carson Palmer looks pretty damn good breaking Warner's Cardinal all-time single-season passing TD record (31).

I'd prefer not getting into a shootout with these guys, but I do think it'll be Arizona, Green Bay or Seattle in Charlotte in a few weeks...  

Link to comment
Share on other sites

More than likely we will have to play 2 out of the 3 teams you named. As far as the Cardinals go, the difference between the team that got torched in the playoffs and the team we have now is almost night and day. We had a qb on the decline in that game that never gave us a chance. Currently we have an MVP nominee leading us. I do believe the cardinals this year are similar to their 2011 version. However, the 2015 Panthers are lightyears ahead of the 2011 version. I can't see ANY team in the NFL whooping us like that with the locker room we have currently.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I just want all our players in pads and available for the playoffs. We have 4 more games to work out the kinks and get all these new players coming off injury to shake off the rust and our younger/new additions to be up to speed, hitting on all cylinders. 

I still don't think we've seen this team's best football and certainly haven't seen them put a full 60-minutes in a game without leaving points on the field because of drops, miscues and turnovers.

until we see that, these guys just need to keep pounding.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, 15 said:

That Cardinals team was 8-8 coming off a blowout loss to the Patriots and then got hot at the perfect time. Very different team. 

More importantly, that Panthers team was a paper tiger with a QB that had been bailed out by a fantastic run game and defense.

I remember feeling like it was a matter of time before our good fortune with Jake that year ran out, and after we dominated the first offensive drive of that game, the floodgates opened.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, cbarrier90 said:

More importantly, that Panthers team was a paper tiger with a QB that had been bailed out by a fantastic run game and defense.

I remember feeling like it was a matter of time before our good fortune with Jake that year ran out, and after we dominated the first offensive drive of that game, the floodgates opened.

Exactly.

And this team can win in any fashion.  We can get into a shootout and beat you....we can get into a defensive battle and beat you.

We are really the ONLY complete team in the NFL right now....

Link to comment
Share on other sites

My thoughts on AZ.

1.  They seem to be dependent on the deep ball.  They are good at it.  But if the deep ball doesn't get them in they tend to struggle punching it in. 

2.  Defensively, IMO they often can be overly aggressive.  

3.  I think a team that can rush 4 and keep the big play limited matches up well with the O.

4.  Against their D, you have to have a QB that can make them pay for the manner in which they pressure.   This was early Cam's nightmare....this is what current Cam thrives against. 

I actually think Carolina matches up just fine with them. Would be a good game.  We would need to be healthy on D though 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I think Finnegan getting up to speed will be really important.  Especially if we face Zona.  John Brown is danger zone.  Finnegan is fast though (both ran an identical 40 time although CF has probably lost a few ticks to age) and he's not a bad player.  If he can cannonball into the pool over these next four weeks it'll pay dividends.  In my opinion, of course.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, Kuechly59 said:

The biggest key playing the cardinals will be limiting yac which with the exception of the saints game we have been very good at this season..

 

if if we make Palmer throw down the field to beat us we will pick him..

The Vikings damn near beat the Cards with their 3 best defensive players out and a mediocre offense.

The difference with us is that we CAN get into a shootout with Arizona and win. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Minnesota should have won the game last night if it weren't for a terrible case of the butterfingers. They moved the ball against the Card's D that made me very surprised- And I don't think the Vikes offense is really that great in the first place. AP didn't have a big day at all- probably due to extra attention that the Cards gave him- but if I told you that AP would have a very pedestrian day- you woulda thought they woulda been blown away by the Cards.. not so.

Cards aren't as great as people are hyping them, but they are easily one of 2-3 teams we need to be on our A game to win.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • If we pay Bryce like a franchise QB we're completely and utterly buttfuged.
    • In my view, the realistic expectation for this team to compete will start 2027.  At that time, I think we could be looking at the following (this is HIGHLY speculative):   QB:  You know, Bryce.  I am not a fan, but they don't ask me.  But there is reason for hope--and here it is.  Bryce will be entering his prime.  Since we are likely to pay him, there will be changes that I include throughout this exercise--I realistically speculate on what they are going to do with Bryce and then I realistically speculate on what means in terms of the cap and other positions. Bryce HAS IMPROVED.  The idea is that if you give him more weapons and protection, that will continue.  His career:   At this rate, if his growth continues, by 2027 we should expect nearly 30 TDs and about 12 Interceptions and a Rating of about 98.  His completion percentage should settle at 65-66% or so.  If that happens, you can win with it. The following stats demonstrate how the Panthers will be able to afford it (and re-sign Ickey) My guess is they will require about $60m per year. This is why rookies who can play are important.  It also helps us see the blueprint.  You may disagree, but this is the cruel realities of the salary cap. Robert Hunt:  Cut post June 1 and save $19m.  Who do you replace him with?  Ickey. Tershawn Wharton:  Cutting him saves nearly $15m.  We should all hope to see Aaron Hall (UDFA) make the roster and play well.  Regardless, this is a position we would likely have to address in the next draft. Trevin Moehrig:  Cutting Moehrig as the starting SS saves this team $16.5m.   Ransom will be on year 3 of a cheap rookie deal and should be more than ready to take the reins.  their styles are similar.  Furthermore, FS Wheatley (R, 4th round) will be starting. Taylor Moton:  So much depends on his knee, but I have an idea that he can play another 3 years.  extending him could save the team about $5m per year.  Cutting him outright would save the team about $21m. In the most drastic situation, we have to cut Moton and the other three players mentioned.   We would need (in all likelihood) a starting DT and RT.  It is possible that the DE would be addressed, but Wharton's production (so far) could be equaled by a rookie.  Look for a cut free agent and a 2027 draft pick here.  If you cut Moton, you save $21m, and that would be the only big hole to fill.  Having Ickey at RG gives you some depth at T, and Ickey could be the guy.  T could be pick in the 2027 draft (first round), fwiw.  It saves you $21m while costing you $5m, for example. We get younger, creating a core of Freeling, Hecht, and the RT first rounder in 2027) along with Ekownu (second contract in the $15m range, and Lewis, whose contract would be in the $16m range if not extended.)  The OL cuts (Hunt, Moton) would save $40m.  The OL would get younger and still solid with veterans at G.   By cutting Wharton (no brainer if his play stays the same) and Moehrig (good player--but we have Ransom on a rookie contract who would not be that much of a drop off--if any) in addition to Hunt and Moton, we would save over $70m in cap room. We would be able to give Bryce bag  and we would have enough to re-sign Ickey (if the knee is not too risky) to a Guard contract (probably at a discount, coming off that injury).  Furthermore, we could add a RT in the draft (or a RG if Ickey moves to RT) and that would be the only large hole to fill. Correct my logic if you see issues-- On defense, in addition to the aforementioned, Scott ($2m contract) is out, replaced by a 4th round rookie contract. CB Jackson's contract ($7.8m) expires and he is (possibly) replaced by a rookie contract.  At Edge, patrick Jones II's $10m contract expires and he is likely a reserve, and his role is absorbed by Phillips, Scourton, Princely, and possible an UDFA like Isaiah Smith or a 2027 draft pick.   These productive developmental players over the past 2 drafts will pay huge dividends.  On paper, I see the team getting much younger and possibly better while cutting nearly $100m and reallocating that money to get more production.          
    • If everything played out and that last thing happened, I probably just quit. 
×
×
  • Create New...