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Bruce Irvin

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Since he was drafted by the Seahawks in 2012, Bruce Irvin has almost averaged 2 sacks against us. 

2012 - 2 sacks, 1 FF

2013 - Didn't play 

2014 - 2 sacks

2014 playoffs - 1 sack

2015 - 2 sacks

Comparing his combine profile to Vic Beasley...(Falcons OLB that gave us trouble in our only loss this season)

Irvin - 4.5 40 time, 23 bench press, 6.70 cone drill, 4.03 20 yard shuttle, 33.5 inch vertical jump 

Beasley - 4.53 40 time, 35 bench press, 6.91 cone drill, 4.15 20 yard shuttle, 41 inch vertical

Very similar speed, but Beasley is the better overall athlete. But, that speed/pass-rush ability has given us trouble. 

Remmers will have enough trouble with Avril, as he had earlier this year during our 27-23 win, so how can we help alleviate this? 

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I am pretty sure he plays a 4-3 OLB and blitzes gaps rather than the edge most often. I think that helps him rather than just being an edge rusher where it is a little more predictable. He drops in zone often as well. This is our best line we have had so I think we can make the adjustments.

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Just now, MadHatter said:

Not a good idea to move a rookie in the starting lineup for the first playoff game....

I can understand that, but Remmers has been pretty bad.  He's going to get our QB killed.   Whenever Cam gets pressured, at least the last couple of months, it's usually Remmers getting beat badly.  So you either get a sack or Remmers gets a hold because he's beat.   I'm not sure it could get worse.

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Just now, Zaximus said:

I can understand that, but Remmers has been pretty bad.  He's going to get our QB killed.   Whenever Cam gets pressured, at least the last couple of months, it's usually Remmers getting beat badly.  So you either get a sack or Remmers gets a hold because he's beat.   I'm not sure it could get worse.

Williams biggest weakness coming out of college was his feet and athleticism. He is not the guy you pick to handle a pure speed rusher like Irvin.

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1 minute ago, Zaximus said:

I can understand that, but Remmers has been pretty bad.  He's going to get our QB killed.   Whenever Cam gets pressured, at least the last couple of months, it's usually Remmers getting beat badly.  So you either get a sack or Remmers gets a hold because he's beat.   I'm not sure it could get worse.

Don't get me wrong....I definitely think Williams is the starting RT (beginning next season).  I just think messing with the chemistry of the OL (with a rookie no less) going into the playoffs would be a VERY risky one to make.  Don't think there is any way the coaching staff makes that move.

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Yeah, I don't usually agree with MadHatter but he's right on this one, and it's not even close.  

Also, Williams was always a project from the day we drafted him.  It'll be better for him going into next year, unless Remmers allows four sacks all on his own, he'll be starting all game Sunday.  

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2 minutes ago, nctarheel0619 said:

Yeah, I don't usually agree with MadHatter but he's right on this one, and it's not even close.  

Also, Williams was always a project from the day we drafted him.  It'll be better for him going into next year, unless Remmers allows four sacks all on his own, he'll be starting all game Sunday.  

I see you are starting to get smarter now.....haha

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Use more packages that utilize Dickson and Tolbert/Stewart to chip in and support the OL. Seattle loves to blitz and wisely using Olsen and Dickson will be key in hopes that they overpursue, and let Cam work his magic. 12 or 21 packages with Ginn on one side, Cotchery/Funchess/Brown rotating on the other side would be wise. Our OL has been good all year, but Remmers is def the weak link. Williams will be our guy in '16 and beyond, but he has no place starting on this line as we pursue the Lombardi.

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