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Ted Ginn Jr. Running Out of Bounds


PantherBoy95

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On 2/10/2016 at 11:24 PM, PantherBoy95 said:

The thread title states the intent, so no surprise or click bait there.
As I told someone earlier, these forums are to discuss the finer nuances of the game.  That one play could've been a game changer, esp. in a defensive game such as that. Of course no single play lost the game, but if one or two of those things can be eliminated, we win....possibly

So why not discuss one of the MANY failed plays, where mistakes were made, instead of discussing one of the actual successful plays? 

Lol. Don't  answer. You're excuse was a basic cop out. 

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On ‎2‎/‎10‎/‎2016 at 7:41 PM, thomas96 said:

I haven't re-watched that play but pretty sure Ginn could've cut inside and he's fast enough he could've taken it to house. We'd have been up 14-13 instead of down 13-7 still after the missed FG. He had a pretty horrible postseason all around.

 

Yup. If only Ginn would have zigged when they thought he would zag, we would probably had won the game. Let's pick a play we don't like. Then assign fictional points to said play, to make the play look worse than it actually was. Even after admitting you don't actually remember the play. C'mon man.

 

Even for you, this is pretty damm simplistic logic.

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Just now, iamhubby1 said:

 

Yup. If only Ginn would have zigged when they thought he would zag, we would probably had won the game. Let's pick a play we don't like. Then assign fictional points to said play, to make the play look worse than it actually was. Even after admitting you don't actually remember the play. C'mon man.

 

Even for you, this is pretty damm simplistic logic.

Thank you.

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4 hours ago, iamhubby1 said:

Yup. If only Ginn would have zigged when they thought he would zag, we would probably had won the game. Let's pick a play we don't like. Then assign fictional points to said play, to make the play look worse than it actually was.

I think it's a typical fan reaction after a painful loss for some to go back and microanalyze things to such a degree that suddenly people start questioning whether Player X is "really as good as we thought he was".

The reality: There's no such thing as a perfect player. Everyone has flaws. Even great players make mistakes and even great teams lose games.

As to the toughness question, the Patriots long ago began coaching their receivers to basically curl up in a ball / run out of bounds / whatever to avoid taking big hits.  And given that defenders tend to try and hit a receiver as hard as they can, it's actually a pretty smart tactic.

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11 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

I think it's a typical fan reaction after a painful loss for some to go back and microanalyze things to such a degree that suddenly people start questioning whether Player X is "really as good as we thought he was".

The reality: There's no such thing as a perfect player. Everyone has flaws. Even great players make mistakes and even great teams lose games.

As to the toughness question, the Patriots long ago began coaching their receivers to basically curl up in a ball / run out of bounds / whatever to avoid taking big hits.  And given that defenders tend to try and hit a receiver as hard as they can, it's actually a pretty smart tactic.

 

There were enough BAD plays in that game, that we don't need to make up any more. But saying Ginn could have scored on that play is just way too far. That was just too over the top for me to let go. Usually, I just shake my head and move on, but I guess I just couldn't do it this time.

 

I have watched Ginn since college, so I knew he wasn't the most physical of players. He may have be able to get a few more yards, but that is just not who he is. There are plenty of WRs who play like Ginn, so I am not going to harp on him. He is who he is. And for us, that is enough.

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11 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

I think it's a typical fan reaction after a painful loss for some to go back and microanalyze things to such a degree that suddenly people start questioning whether Player X is "really as good as we thought he was".

The reality: There's no such thing as a perfect player. Everyone has flaws. Even great players make mistakes and even great teams lose games.

As to the toughness question, the Patriots long ago began coaching their receivers to basically curl up in a ball / run out of bounds / whatever to avoid taking big hits.  And given that defenders tend to try and hit a receiver as hard as they can, it's actually a pretty smart tactic.

Good to see depth in the response. Exactly yes, I know that Ginn was one of the very few bright spots in the game, however people keep saying why talk about the one good play... I don't think it would've made much sense to start another "Mike Remmers Sucked" "Mike Tolbert Butter Fingers" Thread.  It wasn't about the play itself of course, that was phenomenal. I simply didn't understand his lack of want to cut back and attempt to make a spectacular play i.e. AZ.  I think Ginn was an amazing addition in the off season and have stated that.  I don't get the logic behind people on a forum that don't consider discussing every facet of the game.

It also baffled me when we were 14-0 and someone would start a thread about where we could potentially improve, and people would respond "Dude we're 14-0 quit b*tching."  No one's crying or even being negative obviously, but some people enjoy breaking down the flaws. I haven't had a smart comment towards anyone or even Ginn himself, yet people are so offended.  IDK maybe it's just me. Love Ginn, hope he's back next year in a smaller role, but that single aspect of not sacrificing for every yard in the Super Bowl really got to me.

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26 minutes ago, iamhubby1 said:

 

There were enough BAD plays in that game, that we don't need to make up any more. But saying Ginn could have scored on that play is just way too far. That was just too over the top for me to let go. Usually, I just shake my head and move on, but I guess I just couldn't do it this time.

 

I have watched Ginn since college, so I knew he wasn't the most physical of players. He may have be able to get a few more yards, but that is just not who he is. There are plenty of WRs who play like Ginn, so I am not going to harp on him. He is who he is. And for us, that is enough.

Thank you.

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