Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Another Potential Hall of Famer on our Roster??

bLACKpANTHER

By bLACKpANTHER,
in Carolina Panthers

Recommended Posts

bLACKpANTHER Proficient

bLACKpANTHER

Posted
Posted

Who are the Gold standards when it comes to TE in today's NFL?
Tony Gonzalez, Antonio Gates and Gronk, right? If not for the PEDs Gates tested for, all 3 will be sure fire, 1st ballot HOFers, right? I think so.

So with that in mind, let's look at the stats:


----------- Seasons ------- Yards -------- +1,000yd seasons -------- TDs -------- Superbowls
Gonzalez --- 17 --------- 15,127 --------------      4     ----------------- 111 ---------------- 0
Gates ------- 13 ---------- 10,644 --------------     2     ------------------ 104 --------------- 0
Olsen -------  9  ----------- 6,292 --------------      2     ------------------ 49 ---------------- 1 loss
Gronk ------- 5 ------------- 5,555 --------------     3     ------------------ 65 ----------------- 1 won

Olsen has averaged 860 yds and 6 TDs since he has come to Carolina. If he averages that for the next 4 years he will be right around 10,000 yds and 75 TDs. Now the TDs is the mark that is going to hurt Olsen's chances compared to Gonzalez and Gates, however - If we can get him a ring (which neither Gates or Gonzalez have), that will put Olsen in a different section of elite TEs (ones w/SB rings).

Link to comment
Share on other sites
KSpan Grand Master

KSpan

Posted
Posted

Assuming he stays healthy (perhaps a bold assumption), Gronk will end up passing Olsen on that list in all categories and is already one up in SB wins. Greg's a great player who has some quality years left, but I don't think he'll have the numbers or star power to make it in.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
bLACKpANTHER Proficient

bLACKpANTHER

Posted
  • Author
Posted
6 minutes ago, joemac said:

Come on guys...Olsen is a great player, one of my favorites on the team, but he is not a Hall of Famer. 

I didn't think so either, but I DO consider Gates a 1st ballot HOFer. and when you look at the stats, Olsen is on track to be right around Gates at the end of his contract.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Mvp2014 Collaborator

Mvp2014

Posted
Posted
30 minutes ago, bLACKpANTHER said:

I didn't think so either, but I DO consider Gates a 1st ballot HOFer. and when you look at the stats, Olsen is on track to be right around Gates at the end of his contract.

Like Kspan said, he just doesn't have the star power.  Gates was dominant in all phases, including blocking and YAC.   

Link to comment
Share on other sites
t96 Grand Master

t96

Posted
Posted

I could only see him being a hall of famer if we do like the early '70s Dolphins did and win some Super Bowls after this loss or go undefeated like them AND he keeps up these stats from the past 2 years for the next 4-5 years. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Thorrez Collaborator

Thorrez

Posted
Posted
1 hour ago, bLACKpANTHER said:

I didn't think so either, but I DO consider Gates a 1st ballot HOFer. and when you look at the stats, Olsen is on track to be right around Gates at the end of his contract.

Sorry, what's lacking is not a ring but the fact that he played in teams without receivers inflating his stats.

If he can keep current level for a couple of years with kb and another good receiver (whoever that might be) he has a case but still nowhere near guaranteed. Otherwise he is not even close. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
thefuzz Mentor

thefuzz

Posted
Posted
Just now, Mvp2014 said:

ok so hes not gronk or witten but he is better than Greg and actually a legitimate blocking threat

No, he's not.

Gates has never, ever been a good blocker. nor has Greg to be honest, but they both do try.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Bartin Collaborator

Bartin

Posted
Posted
2 hours ago, hepcat said:

If Olsen plays at the level he's at for another 5 years, he's a HOFer.  

He needs that to just be in the conversation. He'd need like 7 or 8 to be a lock. The NFL HoF is ridiculously hard to get into.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Mvp2014 Collaborator

Mvp2014

Posted
Posted
2 hours ago, thefuzz said:

No, he's not.

Gates has never, ever been a good blocker. nor has Greg to be honest, but they both do try.

I disagree.  I think he's leaps and bounds better than Greg as a blocker and used to maul people back in LT's best years.  I don't think he was ever a good pass blocker but his run blocking was legit.  Until the last 2 years Greg was damn near the worst blocking TE in the league

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • HaricotVert
      Panthers schedule is out

      By HaricotVert · Posted

      One game at a time We need to beat the (insert next team) next week We need to focus on the (insert next team) If we play our brand of Football we will be ok We are playing to win next week, then the division, then we'll see, once you get to the playoffs, everyone is 0-0 We'll be looking to put our guys in a position to win
    • Kuhndog94
      Canes vs Caps Rd 2 Gm 5 7pm

      By Kuhndog94 · Posted

      If Raiden were a Cane, he'd get the double minor. 
    • Ronnie Bass
      Hornets Screwed in NBA Draft Lottey...Again

      By Ronnie Bass · Posted

      I agree it does seem the league is against Charlotte but the picks they've made have been questionable. They've had sure fire picks fall to them and they keep trying to build a army of forwards who cannot shoot for some reason lol. You got to make a move in offseason and or trade for scoring. I get the best aren't coming to Charlotte but theres been opportunities at solid players with experience, that would've come just to be the man here in Charlotte. They got to stop over thinking this in the draft too. Take the best scorers available! I'm hearing we need more size on the wing, a big man, great defender, etc. but nothing about scoring or a shot creator. This team has been terrible at shooting the rock especially from the perimeter and its a iso 3 ball league, no one plays defense or really runs an offense. This franchise does not do well with developing players either. I've seen too many guys take huge leaps once they were away from Charlotte which is concerning. And even more concering that they're taking developmental guys when they have no business doing so. So, All that to say take a proven scorer, high basketball IQ guy, a unpolished player will not survive here. 
×
×
  • Create New...