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Another Potential Hall of Famer on our Roster??

bLACKpANTHER

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Who are the Gold standards when it comes to TE in today's NFL?
Tony Gonzalez, Antonio Gates and Gronk, right? If not for the PEDs Gates tested for, all 3 will be sure fire, 1st ballot HOFers, right? I think so.

So with that in mind, let's look at the stats:


----------- Seasons ------- Yards -------- +1,000yd seasons -------- TDs -------- Superbowls
Gonzalez --- 17 --------- 15,127 --------------      4     ----------------- 111 ---------------- 0
Gates ------- 13 ---------- 10,644 --------------     2     ------------------ 104 --------------- 0
Olsen -------  9  ----------- 6,292 --------------      2     ------------------ 49 ---------------- 1 loss
Gronk ------- 5 ------------- 5,555 --------------     3     ------------------ 65 ----------------- 1 won

Olsen has averaged 860 yds and 6 TDs since he has come to Carolina. If he averages that for the next 4 years he will be right around 10,000 yds and 75 TDs. Now the TDs is the mark that is going to hurt Olsen's chances compared to Gonzalez and Gates, however - If we can get him a ring (which neither Gates or Gonzalez have), that will put Olsen in a different section of elite TEs (ones w/SB rings).

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Assuming he stays healthy (perhaps a bold assumption), Gronk will end up passing Olsen on that list in all categories and is already one up in SB wins. Greg's a great player who has some quality years left, but I don't think he'll have the numbers or star power to make it in.

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6 minutes ago, joemac said:

Come on guys...Olsen is a great player, one of my favorites on the team, but he is not a Hall of Famer. 

I didn't think so either, but I DO consider Gates a 1st ballot HOFer. and when you look at the stats, Olsen is on track to be right around Gates at the end of his contract.

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30 minutes ago, bLACKpANTHER said:

I didn't think so either, but I DO consider Gates a 1st ballot HOFer. and when you look at the stats, Olsen is on track to be right around Gates at the end of his contract.

Like Kspan said, he just doesn't have the star power.  Gates was dominant in all phases, including blocking and YAC.   

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I could only see him being a hall of famer if we do like the early '70s Dolphins did and win some Super Bowls after this loss or go undefeated like them AND he keeps up these stats from the past 2 years for the next 4-5 years. 

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1 hour ago, bLACKpANTHER said:

I didn't think so either, but I DO consider Gates a 1st ballot HOFer. and when you look at the stats, Olsen is on track to be right around Gates at the end of his contract.

Sorry, what's lacking is not a ring but the fact that he played in teams without receivers inflating his stats.

If he can keep current level for a couple of years with kb and another good receiver (whoever that might be) he has a case but still nowhere near guaranteed. Otherwise he is not even close. 

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Just now, Mvp2014 said:

ok so hes not gronk or witten but he is better than Greg and actually a legitimate blocking threat

No, he's not.

Gates has never, ever been a good blocker. nor has Greg to be honest, but they both do try.

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2 hours ago, hepcat said:

If Olsen plays at the level he's at for another 5 years, he's a HOFer.  

He needs that to just be in the conversation. He'd need like 7 or 8 to be a lock. The NFL HoF is ridiculously hard to get into.

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2 hours ago, thefuzz said:

No, he's not.

Gates has never, ever been a good blocker. nor has Greg to be honest, but they both do try.

I disagree.  I think he's leaps and bounds better than Greg as a blocker and used to maul people back in LT's best years.  I don't think he was ever a good pass blocker but his run blocking was legit.  Until the last 2 years Greg was damn near the worst blocking TE in the league

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