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Hardy interview w/Schefter, full interview on page 17


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Not sure why he did this. Now the media's lighting him up for "lying straight through his teeth" and "not showing remorse." Won't affect his chances of getting signed somewhere but only hurt him in the public eye. I don't think he's lying though, and I think our team's response in the aftermath before the Ray Rice video came out supports that. His situation is not comparable to Rice's or any other DV situations, and I think it's completely unfair to call him a "woman-beater" even if he did cause some of those bruises on her arms (as he said he and his friend tried to restrain her). Still hanging on to a thread of hope that we re-unite Monsters Inc. by bringing the Kraken back for peanuts, but I know it's not happening.

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2 minutes ago, Cracka McNasty said:

"I never hit her"

Well, now how can you explain those bruises? 

"I never said I didn't do something wrong"

 

The fug Hardy?

He wasn't responding to "how can you explain those bruises?" Schefter started it out by saying that Hardy claimed to do nothing wrong and that he's innocent, and Hardy responded to that by saying he never said he didn't do anything wrong, but that he is innocent. Hardy's clearly a dumbass and brought this on himself. However, I do not think he's a woman-beater like everyone in the public is making him out to be.

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I might be in the minority, but I do believe he is innocent. I don't believe for a second that he threw he on the futon or in the bathtub or whatever. You just listen to the 9-1-1 call and that doesn't jive with all the mannerisms of the call. He is like "Get this crazy coked-out bitch out of my house, PLEASE!".. 

Then watching the live twitter updates come through during the trial - I felt it was a wrap until the sentence was handed down and was floored.. Yes, he was stupid to be in the situation, but I never thought he did what he was accused of.

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9 minutes ago, thomas96 said:

Not sure why he did this. Now the media's lighting him up for "lying straight through his teeth" and "not showing remorse." Won't affect his chances of getting signed somewhere but only hurt him in the public eye. I don't think he's lying though, and I think our team's response in the aftermath before the Ray Rice video came out supports that. His situation is not comparable to Rice's or any other DV situations, and I think it's completely unfair to call him a "woman-beater" even if he did cause some of those bruises on her arms (as he said he and his friend tried to restrain her). Still hanging on to a thread of hope that we re-unite Monsters Inc. by bringing the Kraken back for peanuts, but I know it's not happening.

No doubt amigo.  As long as he's unsigned and JR remains pissed off at the other owners and the fact we lost in February I'm not giving up.  Same "crime" would have gotten him a game or two before the FUGGING RICE VIDEO (remember the now joke of a 6 game DV rule was AFTER the incident).

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25 minutes ago, thomas96 said:

He wasn't responding to "how can you explain those bruises?" Schefter started it out by saying that Hardy claimed to do nothing wrong and that he's innocent, and Hardy responded to that by saying he never said he didn't do anything wrong, but that he is innocent. Hardy's clearly a dumbass and brought this on himself. However, I do not think he's a woman-beater like everyone in the public is making him out to be.

I have consistently said that the bruises/marks are consistent with someone trying to restrain someone, not beat the poo out of them as has been pushed by many. If Hardy wanted to beat the poo out of most people, he could do it. Moreover, but for that unfortunate incident, Hardy doesn't have a history of beating anyone, much less women. That's just the fact of the matter.

The truth of that night is nebulous enough to give him the side eye, but not enough to label him as a woman beater in my estimation. If you're going to label him, call him a dumbass. But that doesn't warrant a lifetime ban from the NFL. 

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6 minutes ago, CarolinaNCSU said:

ITT, idiots will still want Hardy back in 3...2...1...

Just to clarify, I don't think anyone wants him back to teach Sunday School to Junior.  But he's done his time, would play like a man possessed, would be the best bang for buck in football, and would take the 2016 Panthers from best team in the league to unstoppable juggernaut.

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