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Five Reasons the Panthers Are 1-5


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The biggest reason the Panthers are 1-5 is because after going 15-1 Gentleman began to over value the talent on the roster.  CJ, Tolbert, Remmers, Oher, Coleman, etc.  He believed the players on the roster had more talent than they have shown.  While the rest of the league improved, we maintained the status quo.  Even regressed at CB and DE.

Let's hope this is a serious learning experience.

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Tbh Stephen A Smith hit the nail on the head, arrogance. Arrogance by Gettleman for ridding Norman, Harper, Tillman, and Finnegan, and arrogance by the some of the players from the team for thinking that everything would just pick up from where it left off. The arrogance stemmed from our success last year, so maybe this season is actually a blessing in disguise but it fuging sucks to go through. 

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1 hour ago, Leeroy Jenkins PhD said:

The biggest reason the Panthers are 1-5 is because after going 15-1 Gentleman began to over value the talent on the roster.  CJ, Tolbert, Remmers, Oher, Coleman, etc.  He believed the players on the roster had more talent than they have shown.  While the rest of the league improved, we maintained the status quo.  Even regressed at CB and DE.

Let's hope this is a serious learning experience.

Learning experience for ron? lol no.. He keeps showing promise and then regresses, rinse and repeat since 2011.. gettleman?? maybe.. He will have to have a hell of a offseason if he wants to redeem himself around here.

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I'll stab at it

1) First and most important, offseason personnel decisions that are adversely affecting this team.  We have guys who were in pampers last week starting for the defending NFC champions in the secondary.  That is unacceptable.

2)Turnovers.  What made Cam's run to MVP so extraordinary last year was limiting the turnovers while he was doing what he was doing.  Meanwhile our defense can't get any turnovers because of issue #1.

3)Injuries - If you said before the season, what 2 positions could you not afford to have injuries at, it'd be Tackle and Corner, and those 2 have lost starters.  I think this is also part of the reason for #2, cam is getting hit and we don't have our #1 corner.

4)Chemistry/Locker Room issues - I can't confirm, but it doesn't seem like this group is cohesive and on the same page.  Whether it's contract issues, anger with management over losing guys like J-no, or the riots, they just don't seem like their on the same page

5)Coaching - I personally think this is less than the others, but Shula is still atrocious.  The fact we call fly routes with awful tackles when the defense is blitzing is asking for failure.  On defense, there's little, if anything Mcdermmott can do with the turd personnel they have

 

There you have it, 5 reasons why we suck.

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Here's the top 5 reasons we're 1-5... according the Sports Illustrated.

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/10/17/

1) Secondary

2) D-Line

3) O-Line

4) Kevin Benjamin Factor (not in 100% agreement on this...but an interesting take on our issue)

5) Inconsistent play from superstars (Cam, Luke, and Thomas are cited as having had some miscues on the field this year).

Love to hear your comments on this. I think SI definitely nailed the top 3 reason.

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