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Buccaneers willing to trade much-needed CB for WR


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56 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

Well after thinking about it I highly doubt we make a trade, not only does that say letting Norman walk wasn't a good idea that will also mean releasing Bene wasn't a good ideal either.


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That is a  bad argument, your record speaks for that already and the more loss you pile up it will speak even louder. 

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37 minutes ago, The_Rainmaker said:

That is a  bad argument, your record speaks for that already and the more loss you pile up it will speak even louder. 

 

C'mon dude. If you want to be taken seriously, just stop. Grow up, and act like an adult. No need to scream to make a point.

 

Of course that would mean you actually do wish to be taken seriously?

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That is a  bad argument, your record speaks for that already and the more loss you pile up it will speak even louder. 


It would be a loss either way, I don't think the bucs CB's are much better then a healthy Bene, but essentially we would lose a wr to get a CB that isn't much of a upgrade over what we had. I think we're at the point in the season where we have to sit tight.....and let the season play out


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Regarding Ginn:

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Ginn has not had a significant impact on offense in any of the six games that Carolina has played this season. He’s also not contributing as much on special teams, either. This season Ginn is averaging just 22.3 yards per kick return and 6.3 yards per punt return, which is the lowest mark in the NFL.

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Ginn is failing the eyeball test in a major way. He’s also earning criticism of the game’s resident experts. Pro Football Focus has given Ginn a 62.9 receiving grade this season. His overall rating (65.2) ranks him No. 67 among qualifying players at his position.

http://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2016/10/22/it-is-time-for-the-panthers-to-ween-off-ted-ginn-jr/

 

 

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Honestly, any move meant to salvage this season should've already been made. At 1-5, we have very long odds of making the playoffs.  I think last year's Chiefs team was only the second team to pull it off in the Super Bowl era.

There's no point in making desperation moves to try to contend this year. That ship has likely sailed. If we were going to make a desperate move, the bye week was that chance. We didn't. 

Time to just ride this one out and see what happens.

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35 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:


It would be a loss either way, I don't think the bucs CB's are much better then a healthy Bene, but essentially we would lose a wr to get a CB that isn't much of a upgrade over what we had. I think we're at the point in the season where we have to sit tight.....and let the season play out


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It would definitely would be a upgrade over what we have espeically depth wise we would become stronger at the DB spot. 

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