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Norv Turner Resigns

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No, I don't think it would be wise to change coordinatorsome midway in to the season. Not when the offense is coming around the team is 4th in scoring and the potential candidate resigned or was graciously terminated mid season. I don't see anything smart about that 

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Would I trade Shula for him?  In a heartbeat.  Not gonna happen though.  All this Shula = Turner, what?!?!?  The system they intend to run might be similar, but Turner isn't oblivious to situational playcalling.  The best possible outcome I could see as possible is we could bring him in as a consultant/assistant OC to help teach Shula to coordinate since there's been no sign that Shula has lost whatever blackmail materials he seems to have on Rivera/Richardson. 

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2 hours ago, rodeo said:

The people saying Norv and Shula are the same are out of their minds. They call similar systems, but the difference is Norv is infinitely better at knowing what play to call, and also at getting a fuging play called in before there are 7 seconds left.

I didn't see this before my above post.  After the second post I saw saying Shula and Turner are the same I couldn't restrain myself lol. Great minds think alike. 

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8 minutes ago, JawnyBlaze said:

Would I trade Shula for him?  In a heartbeat.  Not gonna happen though.  All this Shula = Turner, what?!?!?  The system they intend to run might be similar, but Turner isn't oblivious to situational playcalling.  The best possible outcome I could see as possible is we could bring him in as a consultant/assistant OC to help teach Shula to coordinate since there's been no sign that Shula has lost whatever blackmail materials he seems to have on Rivera/Richardson. 

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He regressed after the buy week - he hasn't been unable to make necessary adjustments the past two games.

As bad as the last few weeks have been our defense has kept us in the game. If Norv had been able to go in at halftime, realize that the O-Line was getting destroyed he would have switched to 3-step drops and more quick passing/screens we could have won both of those games.

Instead he was his stubborn self and thought with zero run game he would still pound the ball up the middle and chuck it down field on 2nd/3rd and long.

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obviously the line needs to be better, but god damn if I saw one more 7 step drop with a terrible line and a QB with injury history I was going to throw up

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We don't need a new playbook to call quick passing plays and WR screens against teams like the Bears who were on their 3rd string CB's who were poor tacklers. Instead calling long developing plays stressing our weak O-line and playing into the biggest strength of their defense, after getting Mcphee back, their pass rush.

Predictability doesn't have anything to do with the playbook either.

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The playbook is fine. Norv was the one calling 7 step drop PA passes when the line can't block a 3 man rush. He made the line look even worse than they are. Didn't work last year when Teddy was the most pressured QB in the league, and it still isn't working now.

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But my run-run-pass-punt drinking game was just getting off the ground.

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I remmeber watching the eagles game and saw norv call a 4 verts with literally no check downs even though it was clear that bradford wasn't getting time in the pocket. Yes, the oline is poo but you have to adjust and norv wasn't doing that

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Again, I go back to the Eagles game... They have a rookie lineman that had a terrible game before the Vikings' game, yet they found a way to help him by giving him help and by keeping the Vikings' defense off balance with quick passes, dump offs, screens. What does Norv do? He runs Asiata on almost every first and second down knowing full well we can't run, then on 3rd and long, asks Bradford to take 5 step drops with the defense ready for a pass. It's like he's setting up Bradford to get hurt. Geeze, if something isn't working out, do something else... Asiata up the middle was just not working.

Any of that sound familiar? I only got halfway through the thread too.

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3 minutes ago, JawnyBlaze said:

Oh, well if Vikings fans on reddit said so...

Change some names around and it is virtually identical to every Fire Shula thread on here. And I trust Vikings fans that see his play calling every game to know his tendencies far better than Panthers fans who only see him occasionally.

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4 minutes ago, Bartin said:

Change some names around and it is virtually identical to every Fire Shula thread on here. And I trust Vikings fans that see his play calling every game to know his tendencies far better than Panthers fans who only see him occasionally.

Well Ron did want to run a system like in SD. Imo though Cam Runs the EP much better than the Coryell. I think we installed more EP as well in the Cards game. 

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15 minutes ago, Snake said:

Well Ron did want to run a system like in SD. Imo though Cam Runs the EP much better than the Coryell. I think we installed more EP as well in the Cards game. 

Yeah we did which is an even bigger feather in Ron/Shula's hat. They actually adjusted. Norv hasn't.

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