PFF Top 25 CBs - Only 1 Rookie Made It

[iamhubby1]

Just now, The Lobo said:

Haha I'm saying have a solid vet from FA to back him up.

 

Sounds like every conversation with the wife. No matter how, I seem to always be one step behind.

 

But depth is good. Right? I got that part right.

[juliosantos]

no one hates on how gettleman can find talent hes great at drafting and finding  cheap talent but he is so damn stubborn and is not good at resigning players 

[The_Rainmaker]

6 hours ago, Saca312 said:

According to PFF, James Bradberry is ranked 22nd out of of the top 25 CBs this season.

And he's only a rookie.

The only rookie on that list to be precise.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-top-25-nfl-cornerbacks-this-season/

This should put into perspective how good Gettleman is at finding talent, and how much of a steal he really is.

I said that he was going to be a stud and better pick than Vernon Butler the day he was drafted. Nobody questions Gettleman ability to find talent, my issue is what areas he invest in. 

BTW 

Imagine having  Norman and Bradberry on each side with Worley playing  slot and having  Hunter Henry playing opposite of Greg Olsen. 

Panthers would have been 10-0 

He would have been drafted early 3rd round if Panthers didnt take him. His combine screams starter material.

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 "I'm hearing his name come up quite a bit on the road. Anytime a corner looks the part physically, he's going to get plenty of attention because those guys are still fairly rare in our league. Can he play? Senior Bowl will be big for him." -- AFC area scout

 

[Saca312]

41 minutes ago, The_Rainmaker said:

I said that he was going to be a stud and better pick than Vernon Butler the day he was drafted. Nobody questions Gettleman ability to find talent, my issue is what areas he invest in. 

BTW 

Imagine having  Norman and Bradberry on each side with Worley playing  slot and having  Hunter Henry playing opposite of Greg Olsen. 

Panthers would have been 10-0 

He would have been drafted early 3rd round if Panthers didnt take him. His combine screams starter material.

 

For Vernon Butler, the jury is still out on him, as it takes a while to develop DTs, but one could argue the same for Bradberry. 

However, considering Butler is mainly solid depth, and Bradberry is a day one starter, one has to wonder what really Butler has in store, so one can't really solidly figure out who's going to be the better pick right now.

And as far as us winning with Hunter Henry, how exactly would he really help, besides being another possible receiver?

Sure, Shockey and Olsen days were nice, but really one has to consider what really made us lose all our games; namely our 2nd half collapses.

And for Norman, we'd lose a lot of players just to pay him, so I'm not complaining one bit about losing him.

So many close games though, could easily be 8-2. Really blame luck.

[SmokinwithWilly]

Obviously we should cut his ass. 22nd means he's one of the worst starting corners in the league. What the hell was Gman thinking? Maybe he could put on 150 lbs and play LT. He's got quicker feet than Remmers.

[cardiackat88.]

The only thing that erks me is that we could still have had Bradberrywith Norman under the franchise tag.

[Cam's New Arm]

7 hours ago, cardiackat88. said:

The only thing that erks me is that we could still have had Bradberrywith Norman under the franchise tag.

NORMAN WAS NOT GOING TO PLAY UNDER THE TAG!!!111

[cardiackat88.]

10 minutes ago, Casto said:

NORMAN WAS NOT GOING TO PLAY UNDER THE TAG!!!111

He said he would

[TarHeel69]

1 hour ago, cardiackat88. said:

He said he would

Only after the tag was rescinded.

[Lumps]

Comparing to Norman is kind of a fault IMO. Norman would be out of place on purpose trying to do too much, thinking he knows better than the scheme or plays called. He was always talented and even when he was put in the doghouse, I was posting he needed to stay in and was the next legit #1 CB from day one despite his mistakes and despite the knee jerk reactions basically 90% of he huddle saying he was a bust. He was in the doghouse much too long, that was a mistake on the coaching in one wa or another.

More of the same type reactions from the huddle. One player does not mean he is a great GM. A solid rookie performance does not mean he will be as good as Norman or good in general. Having a good year and being an above average player (or GM, or coach for that matter) are two things most huddlers can't seem to decipher between. It takes time.

 

guess the doomsday hater labels are designated to those who know the difference around here.

 

On a side note scouting is not my worry about Gettle. His ability to find talent is good enough. The problem is it may not be as good as he thinks it is. Therefore, unlike teams like the Pats or can afford to pay players peanuts because they can scout so well the next man up is already in place, Gettle needs to be a little more humble and realize he is not that gifted and may need to offer a little more money to get/keep players of value here.

[Saca312]

9 minutes ago, Lumps said:

More of the same type reactions from the huddle. One player does not mean he is a great GM. A solid rookie performance does not mean he will be as good as Norman or good in general. Having a good year and being an above average player (or GM, or coach for that matter) are two things most huddlers can't seem to decipher between. It takes time.

 

 

Very fair. Just like with Kawann Short, and Star, we had to wait and see whether they would be good or not.

I dare say Gettleman has managed getting us out of cap hell quite well, and he will not pay players he doesn't think will help the team going forward more than others he plans on signing in the future.

He's got deals done with Cam, and Luke, respectively very high during their contract years. He got rid of most of Hurney's cancerous contracts. He got us to multiple straight NFC South titles after recently having a 2-14 season. 

What's encouraging is Bradberry's potential. That's what I'm harping about.

[pantherphan96]

Norman at #11, not worth $15 million/year

[TarHeel69]

I do believe Norman is missed and would have helped our defense, but he isn't the reason we have been losing.  I will also state that he never has been and never will be worth $15M a year.  Washington overpaid.  Good on Josh for getting paid and good on the Panthers for not being the team to pay him.

[iamhubby1]

1 minute ago, TarHeel69 said:

I do believe Norman is missed and would have helped our defense, but he isn't the reason we have been losing.  I will also state that he never has been and never will be worth $15M a year.  Washington overpaid.  Good on Josh for getting paid and good on the Panthers for not being the team to pay him.

 

Very level headed opinion. I hope you are ready for the Gman haters, and the Josh lovers to give you a bad time.