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Jangler

By Jangler,
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chknwing Grand Master

chknwing

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26 minutes ago, Jangler said:

Did you forget about them?

Let's start a 20 game win streak here and now. 

Is there really going to be much of a difference between 9-12? BPA depending on need. Let's win this game for pride!

KEEP POUNDING!!!

yes if you are trading down there is quite a significance.  if u are staying put, not so much.  Carolina needs to lose this game.  I see no real reason to win it.  I want all of carolinas deficiencies on full display as to not blind gettlemen on what he needs to do.  I dont want them to win on a high note.  I want them to bath in the misery of this season and let it light a fire under them for the next

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This team ain't losing to Tampa.  Have you watched Winston lately?   He goes emo way too often.  I'm all for better draft position but not at the expense of winning.

So count me in Jangler!  I want to watch Winston flip out on his teammates like the emo bitch he is.

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51 minutes ago, Jangler said:

Did you just compare anybody to Luke?

 

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Well I guess you missed the point I was making in favor of Luke. Op states there's no difference from the 9th pick to 12th. The difference can be Luke drafted 9th and Fletcher Cox drafted 12th. Both great players, but that's what a win can potentially cost you 

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