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Opinions : Will decent draft picks and 2nd tier FA's cut it


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Will that be enough to get us close to the big game again. Retain the guys we need, secure some quality  draft picks and fill out the roster with lower priced FA's. Opinions and thoughts please. I can't see DG deviating far from his philosophy. 

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I don't like the question as is because there are many factors involved-availability, cost, positional need, etc. all with varying degrees of importance and reality.

The simple answer however is...the status quo will NOT work.

Work=WIN the Super Bowl

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"Decent" draft picks? No, certainly not, especially with where we're picking. But DG-like, great draft picks? Yes. We'll get a game changer at 8, and probably 2 more above average starters from the next 3 picks on the top 98 or if we trade up one of them. No reason to expect us not to hit on our great picks this year considering how amazing we've drafted under DG and with all of those years being very late picks, except for '13.

 

In addition to that we'll need to bring in some solid veteran presences in certain position groups and retain guys like KK, Addison and CJ at least for this year (or bring in someone like Peppers to replace one of those two DEs if we let either walk). Need a vet WR and another vet presence in the secondary, preferably Captain.

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With Gettleman's eye for talent.

Heck yes. Think about it this way. We're getting back a HoFer MLB, an All-Pro center, an upgrade on nearly every position on our o-line, and a healthy WR Kelvin Benjamin (I'll be making an article on that; the short thing is Kelvin was playing hurt after first two games, then was healthy the last two.). The draft will likely see an upgrade at DE, RB, TE, and possibly a SS if we don't snag one in FA.

We're trending up, and that's scary for the NFL.

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After that shithole of a season last year, the team is going to have to prove to me they have what it takes to win these close games that we lost so many of in the past season. I think its easy for someone who didn't really watch the Panthers games of this season to think that we're back in the toilet but the frustrating thing is we had the talent to go 12-4 easily if we win those close games that we should have won last season (we lost SIX games by three points or less that is fuging unacceptable).

If we get even one really good/great player added , and the playcalling improves somehow, I don't see why we can't have a winning season. fug we couldve had one this year if we had a kicker who made his kicks in fuging crunchtime like he's supposed to. If Gano hits the game winner in Denver we might have lost like 2 or 3 games for the rest of the season with the momentum from that.

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I think if we had a A+ kicker, a Von Miller type pass rusher, dominant OTs, that's all this team needs to go to the playoffs for 4 years strait. We'd be pushing championship games every year like the Patriots if we also had a halfway competent offensive coordinator.  If I had to say pick one position that will improve the team the most, I would have to say a dominant LT or RT, with someone halfway decent on the other side of him not named Remmers. This teams greatest weakness is not being able to do jack diddly squat against good pass rushers who strip sack Cam with regularity.

Great Saftey like Berry, is nice to have but not totally necessary. A dominant true #1 WR is nice to have but also not nesesary for our team. A dominant RB , again nice to have but not totally needed.

Our LBS are good, our interior Dline is good, our QB is great when he has time, WRs are mediocre, secondary on the whole is mediocre. Cam and Luke are the only truely dominant players we have on our team, if we get two more then that would vastly improve our team. I'm thinking one draft pick (ex. Fournette, Adams, S.Thomas, or D.Barnett), and one FA (ex. D.Jackson, J.P.P., Berry) could put this team over the hump and help us either avoid getting into those close game situations all the time, or help us actually win those fuging games.

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If we draft a pass rusher in the 1st and get a good one in FA our Dline would be great and that totally changes how good the defense is on the whole. Get something like Solomon Thomas in the 1st and JPP or Calais Campbell in FA , combine that with Star, Short, Butler and our LBs.. good luck 2017 opponents.

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1 hour ago, Hoenheim said:

fug no. Keep doing what we've been doing for the past 20 years = you get the same mediocre inconsistent results. We have the exact opposite philosophy of the Patriots and it shows in win consistency 

I have to agree here. These feast or famine years one right after another has got to stop.

6-10 7-9 12-4 7-8-1 15-1 6-10

Now I can forgive the first two due to Ron rebuilding but honestly it's been so wishy washy and that drives me crazy. I think if we don't change this year Ron is gone. Let's hope they make the jump this year.

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