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Panthers ranked #7 in 5-year draft analysis


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http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/gallery/nfl-draft-teams-picks-draft-records-ranked-2012-present-030117

 

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Pro Bowlers: 4 (LB Luke Kuechly, pictured, DT Kawann Short, G Trai Turner, CB Josh Norman)

Summary: Carolina ranks 7 despite having the fewest selections on the board, a credit to GM Dave Gettleman. In addition to the Pro Bowlers, Carolina has found solid contributors in Star Lotulelei and Kelvin Benjamin and should benefit going forward after thrusting 2016 rookie cornerbacks James Bradberry and Daryl Worley into starting roles


One of the most interesting aspects of this is that Carolina has been the most efficient drafting team in the NFL.  Using their metric (2.4 points per pick). The closest team is the chiefs at 2.1 points per pick. Here is their metric:
 

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So here is the formula we used: teams scored 5 points for Pro Bowl player (when the nomination occurred while on the team's roster), 3 points for a 2016 starter and 1 point for a 2016 rostered player (IR counts). Additional Pro Bowl nods earned and extra point and players traded or lost for value (trades or compensatory picks) yield a point, too. Here are the rankings, organized by total points. See where your team falls.

 

Another note of interest: 


The Panthers have only made 28 draft selections over the course of 5 years, which is crazy if you consider the average is 40.

If you remove the 2012 draft, which was Hurney, the Panthers have only drafted 21 players in 4 years, 11 players lower than the NFL average over the same time period. 

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Gettleman seems to target certain players at certain positions and has no problems making moves to get them especially later in the draft. He preaches best player available which I believe is true in Round 1 & 2 but in rounds 3-7 I think he starts going for need and has no problems making trades to get the guy he wants. 

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Just now, yasuhara2241 said:

Gettleman seems to target certain players at certain positions and has no problems making moves to get them especially later in the draft. He preaches best player available which I believe is true in Round 1 & 2 but in rounds 3-7 I think he starts going for need and has no problems making trades to get the guy he wants. 

I agree with this. He is all about BPA in round 1 but he's proven as early as round 2 he will reach or trade up for a need.

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36 minutes ago, panther4life said:

Such a flawed formula they used. 

5 points for a pro bowler

3 points for player being a  2016 stater. ( we got points for Tre Boston then lol)

1 point for being a rostered player. 

Well, it may not seem like a great formula, but it's the same for every team.... so, even by these modest standards we've gotten more value than any other team.  Throw in a few extra points for Luke's DROY & DPOY and our haul looks pretty sweet...

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1 hour ago, panther4life said:

Such a flawed formula they used. 

5 points for a pro bowler

3 points for player being a  2016 stater. ( we got points for Tre Boston then lol)

1 point for being a rostered player. 

It might be flawed but let's be honest Gettleman has done a pretty good job drafting. He won't hit on every pick that would be impossible but he has found some great talent and this formula didn't even include undrafted FA. 

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59 minutes ago, KB_fan said:

Well, it may not seem like a great formula, but it's the same for every team.... so, even by these modest standards we've gotten more value than any other team.  Throw in a few extra points for Luke's DROY & DPOY and our haul looks pretty sweet...

Quoting this for emphasis. 

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5 hours ago, yasuhara2241 said:

Gettleman seems to target certain players at certain positions and has no problems making moves to get them especially later in the draft. He preaches best player available which I believe is true in Round 1 & 2 but in rounds 3-7 I think he starts going for need and has no problems making trades to get the guy he wants. 

I wouldn't say it's him going for a need, as much as he sees a player slipping that they have a high value for. 

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